ergos are subjective. How are the ergos subjective, when you can't find ONE Daiwa user who prefers them?? The ergos was/is the biggest problem with the reel. The Zillion/ TD-Z platform is possibly the most comfortable platform ever sold by any company. Because you speak for EVERYBODY? And because e...

Bootytrain wrote: ergos are subjective.

How are the ergos subjective, when you can't find ONE Daiwa user who prefers them?? The ergos was/is the biggest problem with the reel. The Zillion/ TD-Z platform is possibly the most comfortable platform ever sold by any company.

I read it when it was released and I also seen your post to Cal stating much the same thing you did in your previous post as well as his reply. You and I both know that casting distance is way down on the totem pole of features that make for a nice reel. So I guess in my mind the point is probably ...

Why would this surprise anyone?? You can pick them up and tell the platform and reel are basically identical. What did people expect to find gold gears :lol: Eerily similar to Shim's painting the Curado white and calling it a Chronarch, you would think they would learn from the publics reaction to t...

lurer wrote:Markanthony404, the new zillion is made in thailand if I am not wrong.

Either way it's a major downgrade...especially given the $300 price tag. But the bigger deal to me is major downgrade in ergonomics and smoothness, two marks the old Zillion built it's reputation on.

Daiwa fumbled the redesign of one of their most iconic reels.

Wish I had a collection of them on a shelf...funds being what they are, I may have to be happy with my two Zillions...

Surely I can find an excuse to buy one more