More important than what to use, is to know where to use it and how much to use. Many on this site get to caught up in using some high fallutin' super duper special oil. Absolutely true. I believe that less is more when it comes to reel lubrication. A light coating of grease and a single drop of oi...

Oil:
Bantam oil for shimano.
Ardent oil for most everything else.
Penn oil for cheaper reels.

Grease:
Daiwa Molybdenum for daiwa spinning reel gears.
Shimano ACE-2-DG04 for baitcast reel gears.
Shimano DG06 for idle gears and other light applications.
Cals for drag washers.

The Patriarch is not a bad reel, it's average just like the review concludes. When compared to top performers like the Stradic CI4+ or the Daiwa balistic I think it's a no brainier. I would choose the daiwa or shimano, save a few bucks and get a better reel.

Those old Roland Martin helicopter lures. They were panned by most anglers but I have had good luck with them. The line twist would be my only gripe.

Can't wait to read the shootout, I got money on the Daiwa.

I have owned both reels and to be honest in the real world there’s not a huge difference. The whiffle spool will cast a little bit further but that's it. The drilled out frame does cut a small amount of weight be it's mostly for looks.

Like a lot of anglers on here I’ve had my bad experiences with quantum reels. I saw them on tv and thought, if I buy those I’ll be a better fisherman like the pros. Nothing could be further from the truth. Every single quantum casting reel I bought had a major problem with in two years. They simply ...

What kind of reel? I have seen this happen if there is too much grease on the roller bearing. I also have some older Daiwa spinning reels that do this when the temp gets below 30.

Oh man can't wait to punch and flip with the bantam I'm reading for summer small mouth fishing with the supposed shallow spool. Don't really need another reel, but I've already got a rod picked for this one. HAHAHA I dont think many of us on here NEED another reel (* bait monkey whispers " but you ...

There are a lot of people including myself who think the Micro Module or Power Mesh gears are more marketing hype than anything else. I have felt reels that are just as smooth as the conquest with bigger gear teeth. I'm sure the new Ryoga is a great reel, the old one is built like a tank. From past ...

Mike son wrote:The idle gears are still plastic...

I would say yes but it’s not really a big deal, even the shimano conquest has a plastic idle gear. It's not under any real stress so it will take forever to wear out.

Sweet looking reel, I really like the new thumb bar. I can tell from the video it has a metal worm gear

Cristo wrote:


I believe we as anglers can be a little fickle, especially when equipment is lauded so much.

Very true....

I am more excited to see the review on this than any other reel, looks like a game changer.

The ganders still open in eastern Ohio and western pa have some great deals on lures, 40% off everything in the store.