New Zillion XXH (9.1:1)

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Re: New Zillion XXH (9.1:1)

Post by E73Bass » Thu Jan 08, 2015 3:10 am

ccass wrote:I thought the same thing. It might be pushing 100mm. Any word on the spools between the two?
X2 ---I want to know the same on spools

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Re: New Zillion XXH (9.1:1)

Post by basser100 » Thu Jan 08, 2015 2:55 pm

Its got to be 100mm. My Steez EX 7.9 came out with a 100mm handle.

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Re: New Zillion XXH (9.1:1)

Post by E73Bass » Mon Jan 12, 2015 11:19 pm

Anything new on this....?

Difference b/w USDM spool and the JDM spool on the Zillion-TWS?

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Re: New Zillion XXH (9.1:1)

Post by tywithay » Tue Jan 13, 2015 4:23 pm

$265 shipped from digitaka, assuming the yen holds. Can't wait until they're in stock.

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Re: New Zillion XXH (9.1:1)

Post by E73Bass » Tue Jan 13, 2015 11:16 pm

tywithay wrote:$265 shipped from digitaka, assuming the yen holds. Can't wait until they're in stock.
Sent you a PM

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Re: New Zillion XXH (9.1:1)

Post by E73Bass » Thu Jan 15, 2015 9:18 pm

NEW VIDEO up of the JDM Zillion-TWS....doesn't tell us much more then what has been posted.

Still wanna know what difference is b/w the USDM spool and the JDM Spool.
Magseal and Spool and Aluminum Looking Drag Star seem to be the differences and the difference in trim color on the 9.1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAF2TkP1qvo

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Re: New Zillion XXH (9.1:1)

Post by africanbass » Sun Jan 18, 2015 11:02 pm

All the details for the range now available,
http://all.daiwa21.com/fishing/item/ree ... index.html

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Re: New Zillion XXH (9.1:1)

Post by 21farms » Mon Jan 19, 2015 1:26 am

africanbass wrote:All the details for the range now available,
http://all.daiwa21.com/fishing/item/ree ... index.html
thanks, africanbass...that confirms that the JDM zillions all have 90mm handles. as for the USDMs, we'll have to wait and see.

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Re: New Zillion XXH (9.1:1)

Post by Hobie-Wan Kenobi » Mon Jan 26, 2015 2:59 pm

Any word on the difference between the USDM and JDM zillion beside magseal and cosmetics?

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Re: New Zillion XXH (9.1:1)

Post by E73Bass » Mon Jan 26, 2015 10:40 pm

ccass wrote:Any word on the difference between the USDM and JDM zillion beside magseal and cosmetics?
And spool?

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Re: New Zillion XXH (9.1:1)

Post by Finnz922 » Tue Jan 27, 2015 12:26 pm

I have one on pre-order from JapanTackle.com. I will post pics as soon as I get it. Should be sometime this February.

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Re: New Zillion XXH (9.1:1)

Post by africanbass » Fri Feb 20, 2015 5:42 am

Good news for the lefties,
Daiwa Japan has stepped up to the plate,
http://tacklenews.net/15zillion-tw.html

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Re: New Zillion XXH (9.1:1)

Post by Hobie-Wan Kenobi » Fri Feb 20, 2015 6:24 am

So, when should I expect it to ship?

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Re: New Zillion XXH (9.1:1)

Post by freelancer27 » Tue Aug 15, 2017 4:08 pm

Hi all,

Has been a while since the reel got released.

I am wondering if anybody can post a review/summary of the reel. Personally I am considering the reel as my frogging/flipping reel with heavy braid (50-65#).

I would be particularly interested in:

* Sturdiness of reel
* Casting ability with heavy braid
* flipping with heavy braid (how is the line going through the reel line whole)
* torque (I had the Revo Rocket and I was underwhelmed by its torque and ability to fight bigger fish)
* long term review


Thanks all.

Cheers,
Seb.

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Re: New Zillion XXH (9.1:1)

Post by DirtyD64 » Tue Aug 15, 2017 10:53 pm

freelancer27 wrote:Hi all,

Has been a while since the reel got released.

I am wondering if anybody can post a review/summary of the reel. Personally I am considering the reel as my frogging/flipping reel with heavy braid (50-65#).

I would be particularly interested in:

* Sturdiness of reel
* Casting ability with heavy braid
* flipping with heavy braid (how is the line going through the reel line whole)
* torque (I had the Revo Rocket and I was underwhelmed by its torque and ability to fight bigger fish)
* long term review


Thanks all.

Cheers,
Seb.
I own one, it is the purple US domestic version though. I use mine with 17lb fluoro, one of my tournament fishing partners uses his with 50lb Fitzgerald braid. I use my Zillion TWS 9.1 on a 7'6" MH Villain 2.0 Abu rod. I really like the reel. For 3/8oz and above it will bomb any lure and also have great control. These reels can skip and accurately cast without backlash too, just cause the new SV reels are amazing doesn't mean that these still don't have the ability. People forget you can just simply turn the brakes higher in these situations. Before the 7'6" MH rod, I used the 9.1 on a 7'M rod with 12lb fluoro for lighter lures. It still cast them fine, I think the spool weighs about 16 grams which isn't terrible, not great (the new SV is like 11 grams). The reel is extremely sturdy, just as the original Tatula it is based off of. This Zillion has a Zaion sideplate rather than aluminum, but I cannot tell a rigidity decrease. When casting with heavy braid, as I mentioned before as long as the rod matches the lure and it isn't extremely light, you will be golden. The big, wide spools of these reels really help with long casting and heavier lines. Leader knots do not pass well at all through the TWS, though I never have this issue, I don't use but about a 4-6ft leader. I have seen up to 65lb cast great on these TWS reels, and I am sure 80+ would be fine. The flipping is great, that is actually the primary feature of the 9.1 I mentioned on the 7'6"MH Villain 2.0. It casts well, not SV Zillion well, but with regular size lures it is an amazing reel. Torque is going to be lacking a bit. If I could do it over I would have a 7 speed for my particular fishing style. The 9.1 is handy though when I am in a hurry or tournament, it still has plenty of torque for most situations. This reel's speed has also landed me a few big fish when a slow reel would have missed the hookset. Compared to the Revo Rocket, this reel will have better torque. The Zillion has a dual supported pinion, much similar to Shimano's X-Ship. I always thought Abu had this system because their spools have a short shaft, but I recently found out Abu's version is not bearing supported, just built similar but with frame/bushing support where the Daiwa has a bearing. The 100mm handle helps a lot, unless you are using massive lures with high resistance torque shouldn't be an issue, I do prefer personally to keep lures at or under 1/2oz, I don't like the feel of a 1oz Carolina rig (but some do, I just drag them slow).

Last of all, my long term review: I have had a 7.3 and 9.1 Zillion TWS for almost 3 years now, neither have had a single issue, not one. They are robust, strong, sturdy reels. I fish them a good bit, only own about 8 baitcasters and these 2 get pretty good use (about 2-3 times a week). I have purchased the Hedgehog bearing remover to clean spool bearings, oil/grease the levelwind, routine cleaning, main gear/pinion greasing, etc. These are absolute bulletproof reels for me. My friend that tournament fishes owns the 9.1, a 5.5, and a 6.3; he hasn't reported any issues either, but owns 20+ reels so doesn't use them quite as specifically as I do.

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