Reels from Japan??
- St33Lh3Ad3R
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Reels from Japan??
I'm still new in here so forgive me for not being up to date....but "HI"
I've been going thru the forums and I noticed people w/ reels from Japan, there are makes and models i never heard of. My question is.....
Are they much better quality? that was a dumb question...cuz I know lots of great stuff come from the east. But you guys really got my interest in getting a hold of these reels now. So are these reels superior than what we have here? Is this just some fanatics satisfying their need for all things JDM? I'm not trying to be A-hole or something, I'm seriously interested in this...I'm checking out some of those daiwa's, they look to be top-notch!!
I've been going thru the forums and I noticed people w/ reels from Japan, there are makes and models i never heard of. My question is.....
Are they much better quality? that was a dumb question...cuz I know lots of great stuff come from the east. But you guys really got my interest in getting a hold of these reels now. So are these reels superior than what we have here? Is this just some fanatics satisfying their need for all things JDM? I'm not trying to be A-hole or something, I'm seriously interested in this...I'm checking out some of those daiwa's, they look to be top-notch!!
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Re: Reels from Japan??
The Japanese reels are typically lighter and made with higher tech material, consider the Sol and Alpha same phyical size 2 different weights the Sol at 7.4 oz has a brass gear while Alpha at 6.6 oz has a duraluminum gear. It's these little difference's that tend to make the Japanese version's more desirable.
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in my very honest opinioin the best reels in the world are made in japan, and while they have some awsome rods as well, i like american rods better, but NOBODY can stand up to american rods
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Don't make a statement like that till you have tried the stuff from japan Boone. You know how you feel about those japanese reels........IF you try the rods, you will find the same to be true. To quote one of your favorite words,"awesome", lolbut NOBODY can stand up to american rods
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i know i know, but for now i am stickin with kistler they have been good to me, and i never said i was a good speller, i cannot spell worth a crapp
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Its the driveshaft that is duralumin in the alphas not the gear its brass. But the Alphas AI has the duralumin gear and driveshaft thats how they get 6.0oz.SpecksReds wrote:The Japanese reels are typically lighter and made with higher tech material, consider the Sol and Alpha same phyical size 2 different weights the Sol at 7.4 oz has a brass gear while Alpha at 6.6 oz has a duraluminum gear. It's these little difference's that tend to make the Japanese version's more desirable.
Also there is a huge option gap in the calcutta's, The conquest has the clicking drag and tension knob and forged handle. The US CTE version has none of these options pretty lame really.
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Sorry about that guy's . Now if I can only get some of those little extra's on my stock Alpha .
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Japan gear means TROUBLE and the bait monkey. Once I ordered my first scorpion it was Downhill from there, now i have 2 scorpions, 1 MG scorp, 2 biomasters, Pixy, alphas ito ai. I will never go back to "domestic" reels unless they come out with something that is amazing in smoothness or quality.
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I have a couple myself. You pay big bucks for them or for high end American reels. A big part of the Japanese reels is styling and collectibility.St33Lh3Ad3R wrote:I'm still new in here so forgive me for not being up to date....but "HI"
I've been going thru the forums and I noticed people w/ reels from Japan, there are makes and models i never heard of. My question is.....
Are they much better quality? that was a dumb question...cuz I know lots of great stuff come from the east. But you guys really got my interest in getting a hold of these reels now. So are these reels superior than what we have here? Is this just some fanatics satisfying their need for all things JDM? I'm not trying to be A-hole or something, I'm seriously interested in this...I'm checking out some of those daiwa's, they look to be top-notch!!
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my only advice? run away.. and run fast! I just took inventory a couple of days ago in preparation for 2006 and I have approximately 46 bass sized baitcasters now, 90% of which are Japanese Domestic products...St33Lh3Ad3R wrote:I'm still new in here so forgive me for not being up to date....but "HI"
I've been going thru the forums and I noticed people w/ reels from Japan, there are makes and models i never heard of. My question is.....
Are they much better quality? that was a dumb question...cuz I know lots of great stuff come from the east. But you guys really got my interest in getting a hold of these reels now. So are these reels superior than what we have here? Is this just some fanatics satisfying their need for all things JDM? I'm not trying to be A-hole or something, I'm seriously interested in this...I'm checking out some of those daiwa's, they look to be top-notch!!
and this doesn't count the reels i have for saltwater or any of my spinning reels
Cal, Managing Editor
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Re: Reels from Japan??
There are big differences in the baitcasting reels(US vs. Japan)in both Daiwa and shimano, but with the spinning models it's a little different. Examples would be:
SOL/KIX. Sol, being the US version, has one more bearing than the KIX, but is also made in the same factory.
Fuego/Luvias. Same reel in everyway except color that I can tell. Correct me if I'm wrong. Also I believe the Fuego is a Tailand made reel.
Certate. Same both US and Japan.
Capricorn A/Freams. The Cap being a Tailand made reel. Also comes with a machined aluminum handle.
Exceptions: Exist, Airity, Itö, Type-R, Presso, Emeraldas, Gekkabijin, Proshooter, and Primax. The Emeraldas, Presso, and Gekkabijin being applicaton specific reels. Exist, Airity, Itö, and Type-R being so far out of "most" peoples buget, I would consider buying them only as collector peices, never using them. Well maybe the Exist.
Now Shimano has made more of a gap in 2006. Example:
Stella. Same both US and Japan.
Thats about it though. Most the new Japanese made reels in the Shimano line up are switching to the SR concept right down to the inexpensive Ultegra making a very big difference between the US(market) and Japanese made Shimano spinning reels.
SOL/KIX. Sol, being the US version, has one more bearing than the KIX, but is also made in the same factory.
Fuego/Luvias. Same reel in everyway except color that I can tell. Correct me if I'm wrong. Also I believe the Fuego is a Tailand made reel.
Certate. Same both US and Japan.
Capricorn A/Freams. The Cap being a Tailand made reel. Also comes with a machined aluminum handle.
Exceptions: Exist, Airity, Itö, Type-R, Presso, Emeraldas, Gekkabijin, Proshooter, and Primax. The Emeraldas, Presso, and Gekkabijin being applicaton specific reels. Exist, Airity, Itö, and Type-R being so far out of "most" peoples buget, I would consider buying them only as collector peices, never using them. Well maybe the Exist.
Now Shimano has made more of a gap in 2006. Example:
Stella. Same both US and Japan.
Thats about it though. Most the new Japanese made reels in the Shimano line up are switching to the SR concept right down to the inexpensive Ultegra making a very big difference between the US(market) and Japanese made Shimano spinning reels.
- St33Lh3Ad3R
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Re: Reels from Japan??
Thanks for all the great info....it seems most of those reels are geared towards bass. Is there any models about the same size as a quantum classic mg or the pflueger president. I'm looking for a low-profile, wide spool that'll hold up to 12-15# test line w/ a capacity of 150+ yds. I want this for some salmon fishing. I could always switch and use braided lines on smaller reels but I'm not that thrilled on braided lines, I still prefer mono.
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The other reason to get them would be the "what the hell is that" factor. No one around here has even heard or seen any of the reels i bring in to get line on. I love all my reels even if they didnt come from Japan. All that matters is they perform and you have fun with them catchin fish.
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Re: Reels from Japan??
Welcome to T3!St33Lh3Ad3R wrote:Thanks for all the great info....it seems most of those reels are geared towards bass. Is there any models about the same size as a quantum classic mg or the pflueger president. I'm looking for a low-profile, wide spool that'll hold up to 12-15# test line w/ a capacity of 150+ yds. I want this for some salmon fishing. I could always switch and use braided lines on smaller reels but I'm not that thrilled on braided lines, I still prefer mono.
If you didn't need "150 yards line capacity", I recommend the Shimano Antares AR reel . It's become my favorite "heavier duty" reel.
It's 'big brother', the Calais 200 has a little more line capacity and weighs a little more. It's even a little "heavier duty" than the Antares because of its larger size. I use mine for medium weight swimbaits and heavier jigs.
Dan
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I have the shimano scorpion and the daiwa alpha, and I can say that both reels can handle reds in the 26" range with no problems.Gotta love those reels!!!!!!