I don't have an ASC but one look at that spool tells me that it struggles to hold enough line for 1/8oz inline spinners. The linear mag brake probably isn't the best thing either for aerodynamic 1/8+ oz baits either. It strikes me as a reel meant for the lighter weight UL baits that are difficult to cast. I throw 1/8 oz inline spinners and beetle spins and I really like the Ray's spools for that more so than my fixed inductor BFS spools. They hold enough line and the thin inductor and air brake allow the spool to scream and cast the baits really far. My Zonda BFS and to a lesser extent my Momo spool Black Max 3 get insta spooled throwing heavier areodymanic baits like an 1/8 oz inline spinner, beetle spins and 1/8 tiny traps.Houndfish wrote:Looking at the Japan Tackle page for the ACS, it says this:
Is that all that is keeping the ACS from being salt-safe? I think I want to pick one up as part of my quest for the "Ultimate 1/8oz Inline Spinner and Spool Combo" but said combo will see most of it's use in brackish water. Right now I am using a Pixy and just trying to stay on top of flushing and drying it after every trip. I would love better performance and less worry.Freshwater only (ball bearings are all high precision stainless steel bearings, not anti-rust treated)
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The main use for the combo will be target casting from a kayak around docks and laydowns for white perch. Right now I am using a 5'4" Teton UL but want to go even shorter but maybe a bit more powerful for the rod. Easy one-handed casts while my attention is somewhat taken up by boat control is the goal. For longer casts I to find schools I use a spinning rod so I can just bomb them out parallel to the bank/cover and not care about fine accuracy. I want to run 6-8lb brain as I catch a lot of pickerel and schoolie stripers as bycatch and I want to be able to land them quickly in the summer as the stripers do not do well with long fights in hot water. I think if the ASC is rated at 40m of .204mm line I should be able to get plenty of braid on the spool for the fishing I want to do.LowRange wrote:I don't have an ASC but one look at that spool tells me that it struggles to hold enough line for 1/8oz inline spinners. The linear mag brake probably isn't the best thing either for aerodynamic 1/8+ oz baits either. It strikes me as a reel meant for the lighter weight UL baits that are difficult to cast. I throw 1/8 oz inline spinners and beetle spins and I really like the Ray's spools for that more so than my fixed inductor BFS spools. They hold enough line and the thin inductor and air brake allow the spool to scream and cast the baits really far. My Zonda BFS and to a lesser extent my Momo spool Black Max 3 get insta spooled throwing heavier aerodynamic baits like an 1/8 oz inline spinner, beetle spins and 1/8 tiny traps.
I am mainly interested in getting more easy and controlled casting. Right now I have a Ray's in my Pixy and I have not managed to get it dialed in how I want it and have never gotten it to preform well in any kind of wind. If the ASC spool ever becomes available for sale I would jump on it but I don't know if that is going to happen. I might glue the inductor on my Ray's and see how I like it.
I also want to use more small cranks for river/stream smallies and figured the ASC could pull double duty if it could stand the brackish water. I really like throwing small J5 and J7 Rapalas when hiking small creeks but don't have a compact combo that really does well with them, casting or spinning.
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If one handed casting to targets is your goal then the ASC should be great.
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Well, that and the perforated spool...Houndfish wrote:Looking at the Japan Tackle page for the ACS, it says this:
Is that all that is keeping the ACS from being salt-safe? I think I want to pick one up as part of my quest for the "Ultimate 1/8oz Inline Spinner and Spool Combo" but said combo will see most of it's use in brackish water. Right now I am using a Pixy and just trying to stay on top of flushing and drying it after every trip. I would love better performance and less worry.Freshwater only (ball bearings are all high precision stainless steel bearings, not anti-rust treated)
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Does that really matter? The reel isn't getting dunked so any water that gets in would come off the line, which does not seem like it would be much. I am also not in super salty water, I mostly fish the tidal rivers in the 10-18 ppt range, so far less then ocean water.poisonokie wrote:Well, that and the perforated spool...Houndfish wrote:Looking at the Japan Tackle page for the ACS, it says this:
Is that all that is keeping the ACS from being salt-safe? I think I want to pick one up as part of my quest for the "Ultimate 1/8oz Inline Spinner and Spool Combo" but said combo will see most of it's use in brackish water. Right now I am using a Pixy and just trying to stay on top of flushing and drying it after every trip. I would love better performance and less worry.Freshwater only (ball bearings are all high precision stainless steel bearings, not anti-rust treated)
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I don't know, I never fish in salt unless I'm on vacation using salt friendly travel stuff. I just know that there's a good chance you'll get down to bare arbor on a lot of casts and there will be at least some water intrusion since that arbor is full of holes. Since there are no moving parts on the spool, you're right, it probably won't matter.
That said, the Alphas Air is designed to do exactly what you're looking for, so I'd just get one of those.
That said, the Alphas Air is designed to do exactly what you're looking for, so I'd just get one of those.
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I think it would be ok in the brackish water your fishing but so you know the Abu ALC-BF7 is a saltwater reel with a clicking drag and a lighter spool for less money.Houndfish wrote:The main use for the combo will be target casting from a kayak around docks and laydowns for white perch. Right now I am using a 5'4" Teton UL but want to go even shorter but maybe a bit more powerful for the rod. Easy one-handed casts while my attention is somewhat taken up by boat control is the goal. For longer casts I to find schools I use a spinning rod so I can just bomb them out parallel to the bank/cover and not care about fine accuracy. I want to run 6-8lb brain as I catch a lot of pickerel and schoolie stripers as bycatch and I want to be able to land them quickly in the summer as the stripers do not do well with long fights in hot water. I think if the ASC is rated at 40m of .204mm line I should be able to get plenty of braid on the spool for the fishing I want to do.LowRange wrote:I don't have an ASC but one look at that spool tells me that it struggles to hold enough line for 1/8oz inline spinners. The linear mag brake probably isn't the best thing either for aerodynamic 1/8+ oz baits either. It strikes me as a reel meant for the lighter weight UL baits that are difficult to cast. I throw 1/8 oz inline spinners and beetle spins and I really like the Ray's spools for that more so than my fixed inductor BFS spools. They hold enough line and the thin inductor and air brake allow the spool to scream and cast the baits really far. My Zonda BFS and to a lesser extent my Momo spool Black Max 3 get insta spooled throwing heavier aerodynamic baits like an 1/8 oz inline spinner, beetle spins and 1/8 tiny traps.
I am mainly interested in getting more easy and controlled casting. Right now I have a Ray's in my Pixy and I have not managed to get it dialed in how I want it and have never gotten it to preform well in any kind of wind. If the ASC spool ever becomes available for sale I would jump on it but I don't know if that is going to happen. I might glue the inductor on my Ray's and see how I like it.
I also want to use more small cranks for Riverview /stream smallies and figured the ASC could pull double duty if it could stand the brackish water. I really like throwing small J5 and J7 Rapalas when hiking small creeks but don't have a compact combo that really does well with them, casting or spinning.
I have both and love them both but would definitely use the ALC over kthe ASC for brackish waters. I live in southern Md and have a 4’6” light casting rod if your interested pm me.
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Write up I did on the Alphas AIR Stream Custom: http://www.tackletour.net/viewtopic.php?f=65&t=80915
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PM Sentmod squad wrote:Just received my custom stream. Handsome little reel. Again thanks Gone Phishin , your meme had me grinning until I received the reel. Man the spool is shallow, even more so than the regular Air.
Re: Alphas air stream custom Handle needed
I just bent the hell out of my air stream carbon handle.
Any chance that anyone has the parts list from the owners manual and can get me a part number for the whole handle that includes the knobs ?
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Eric Ledger
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Any chance that anyone has the parts list from the owners manual and can get me a part number for the whole handle that includes the knobs ?
Thanks,
Eric Ledger
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Nooooooooo!! I didn't think it was even possible to bend a CF handle.E73Bass wrote:I just bent the hell out of my air stream carbon handle.
Any chance that anyone has the parts list from the owners manual and can get me a part number for the whole handle that includes the knobs ?
Thanks,
Eric Ledger
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poisonokie wrote:Nooooooooo!! I didn't think it was even possible to bend a CF handle.E73Bass wrote:I just bent the hell out of my air stream carbon handle.
Any chance that anyone has the parts list from the owners manual and can get me a part number for the whole handle that includes the knobs ?
Thanks,
Eric Ledger
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Yep it’s bent... were you able to find a part number off the parts sheet for the handle ?
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I see part number 96 on my paperwork. I got a LH if it mattersE73Bass wrote:poisonokie wrote:Nooooooooo!! I didn't think it was even possible to bend a CF handle.E73Bass wrote:I just bent the hell out of my air stream carbon handle.
Any chance that anyone has the parts list from the owners manual and can get me a part number for the whole handle that includes the knobs ?
Thanks,
Eric Ledger
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Yep it’s bent... were you able to find a part number off the parts sheet for the handle ?
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Yea... I knew I needed to keep better track of that parts list.Hobie-Wan Kenobi wrote:I see part number 96 on my paperwork. I got a LH if it mattersE73Bass wrote:poisonokie wrote:Nooooooooo!! I didn't think it was even possible to bend a CF handle.E73Bass wrote:I just bent the hell out of my air stream carbon handle.
Any chance that anyone has the parts list from the owners manual and can get me a part number for the whole handle that includes the knobs ?
Thanks,
Eric Ledger
E73bass@aol.com (easier to reply to this email as I am not on TT as much anymore)
Yep it’s bent... were you able to find a part number off the parts sheet for the handle ?
Thanks to all... if anyone could translate the Japanese language part designated off the schematic for #96 and do a copy and paste into this I would really appreciate it: https://translate.google.com
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Found the replacement handle here.
If you have the UPC code of Reel ...(JAN Code)
Did not have with me yesterday and came home and found it today off box and Digitaka website.
You put it in the search box and you get the Parts List...then just use Goodle Translate to confirm its correct.
http://www.sl-planets.co.jp/shop/p/p00614120/
https://translate.google.com/
If you have the UPC code of Reel ...(JAN Code)
Did not have with me yesterday and came home and found it today off box and Digitaka website.
You put it in the search box and you get the Parts List...then just use Goodle Translate to confirm its correct.
http://www.sl-planets.co.jp/shop/p/p00614120/
https://translate.google.com/
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