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bronzefly
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by bronzefly » Mon Jun 22, 2020 12:06 pm
goldrod wrote: ↑Mon Jun 22, 2020 11:36 am
Gary,
So the new 2020 SD vs. PREVIOUS MODEL SD
From what I’m understanding based off what you said
The PMSD has a faster action than this current 2020 SD ?
Can you also please describe the the deeper flexing?
Are you staying it’s more of a versatile action rather than a focused technique rod?
Thanks for your time.
Hi Jorrick -
Yes, the 2020 P5 has a slower action than the previous Super Destroyer. Megabass describes it as a "medium fast" and it certainly feels like that. I have no doubt it will be capable as a jig/worm/close quarters rod, but I also know it will have expanded capabilities due to the action.
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by Datbasstho » Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:03 pm
bronzefly wrote: ↑Mon Jun 22, 2020 12:06 pm
goldrod wrote: ↑Mon Jun 22, 2020 11:36 am
Gary,
So the new 2020 SD vs. PREVIOUS MODEL SD
From what I’m understanding based off what you said
The PMSD has a faster action than this current 2020 SD ?
Can you also please describe the the deeper flexing?
Are you staying it’s more of a versatile action rather than a focused technique rod?
Thanks for your time.
Hi Jorrick -
Yes, the 2020 P5 has a slower action than the previous Super Destroyer. Megabass describes it as a "medium fast" and it certainly feels like that. I have no doubt it will be capable as a jig/worm/close quarters rod, but I also know it will have expanded capabilities due to the action.
What other capabilities do you think it can be used for other than jig and worm?
Thanks
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by Cristo » Thu Jun 25, 2020 5:41 pm
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by evilcatfish » Fri Jun 26, 2020 4:01 am
Datbasstho wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:03 pm
bronzefly wrote: ↑Mon Jun 22, 2020 12:06 pm
goldrod wrote: ↑Mon Jun 22, 2020 11:36 am
Gary,
So the new 2020 SD vs. PREVIOUS MODEL SD
From what I’m understanding based off what you said
The PMSD has a faster action than this current 2020 SD ?
Can you also please describe the the deeper flexing?
Are you staying it’s more of a versatile action rather than a focused technique rod?
Thanks for your time.
Hi Jorrick -
Yes, the 2020 P5 has a slower action than the previous Super Destroyer. Megabass describes it as a "medium fast" and it certainly feels like that. I have no doubt it will be capable as a jig/worm/close quarters rod, but I also know it will have expanded capabilities due to the action.
What other capabilities do you think it can be used for other than jig and worm?
Thanks
My experience with the SD thus far has been limited, but I feel spinnerbaits, frogs, chatterbaits, topwaters, squarebills and swimbaits are within its capabilities. Of course this versatility would be affected by reel/line choice and weight class of the baits though.
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by Datbasstho » Fri Jun 26, 2020 6:48 pm
evilcatfish wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 4:01 am
Datbasstho wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:03 pm
bronzefly wrote: ↑Mon Jun 22, 2020 12:06 pm
goldrod wrote: ↑Mon Jun 22, 2020 11:36 am
Gary,
So the new 2020 SD vs. PREVIOUS MODEL SD
From what I’m understanding based off what you said
The PMSD has a faster action than this current 2020 SD ?
Can you also please describe the the deeper flexing?
Are you staying it’s more of a versatile action rather than a focused technique rod?
Thanks for your time.
Hi Jorrick -
Yes, the 2020 P5 has a slower action than the previous Super Destroyer. Megabass describes it as a "medium fast" and it certainly feels like that. I have no doubt it will be capable as a jig/worm/close quarters rod, but I also know it will have expanded capabilities due to the action.
What other capabilities do you think it can be used for other than jig and worm?
Thanks
My experience with the SD thus far has been limited, but I feel spinnerbaits, frogs, chatterbaits, topwaters, squarebills and swimbaits are within its capabilities. Of course this versatility would be affected by reel/line choice and weight class of the baits though.
Wow, a do it all rod
Thanks!
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by Heddonfrog » Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:34 am
ACK! Micro guides! I should have asked before buying, stupid me. Didn’t read anything anywhere that these had micros. My X-Bites and Landsat came in yesterday and I’m impressed as hell with everything about them other than the guides. The Landsat has no problems with 15lb braid to 8lb flouro and 40lb braid to 15lb mono works decent on the X-B. Though I’m probably going to respool 30lb to 12lb flouro. No on the water time yet with either but with a 2020 Metanium on the X-B it’s an amazingly light and balanced combo. Tried it first with a Steez A but the smaller profile of the Met just feels right on it. The combo is so light I can’t wrap my head around this being a heavy power jig rod. Scale shot is of the X-B. The Landsat came in at 3.36ozs
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by ss30378 » Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:29 am
How's the balance of the X-bites with the met???
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by Heddonfrog » Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:44 am
ss30378 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:29 am
How's the balance of the X-bites with the met???
On the lock nut. For a 7-2 5.5 power it’s pretty damn good. Definitely Floats. Btw my Met is JDM and weighs in at 6.1oz.
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by Chode » Tue Jul 07, 2020 1:39 pm
Heddonfrog wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:44 am
ss30378 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:29 am
How's the balance of the X-bites with the met???
On the lock nut. For a 7-2 5.5 power it’s pretty damn good. Definitely Floats. Btw my Met is JDM and weighs in at 6.1oz.
oh man that's awesome. thx for that
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by ss30378 » Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:09 am
Heddonfrog wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:44 am
ss30378 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:29 am
How's the balance of the X-bites with the met???
On the lock nut. For a 7-2 5.5 power it’s pretty damn good. Definitely Floats. Btw my Met is JDM and weighs in at 6.1oz.
That is excellent for a rod that light with that length and power! Thanks for the pic
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by Chode » Wed Jul 08, 2020 11:27 am
ss30378 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:09 am
Heddonfrog wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:44 am
ss30378 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:29 am
How's the balance of the X-bites with the met???
On the lock nut. For a 7-2 5.5 power it’s pretty damn good. Definitely Floats. Btw my Met is JDM and weighs in at 6.1oz.
That is excellent for a rod that light with that length and power! Thanks for the pic
I agree. the more I look at this rod, the more impressive it gets
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by jmb27 » Thu Jul 09, 2020 6:29 am
Chode wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 11:27 am
ss30378 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:09 am
Heddonfrog wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:44 am
ss30378 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:29 am
How's the balance of the X-bites with the met???
On the lock nut. For a 7-2 5.5 power it’s pretty damn good. Definitely Floats. Btw my Met is JDM and weighs in at 6.1oz.
That is excellent for a rod that light with that length and power! Thanks for the pic
I agree. the more I look at this rod, the more impressive it gets
I have the Dark Sleeper and Super Destroyer models--the rods balance right at reel lock nut/winding check. I'm using a Met 20 on the Dark Sleeper and I've used a Daiwa Type R and a Shimano Core 100 with the SD.
The end balancer that MB put into these rods (or at least the 2 models I have) are fantastic and work really well. The bait monkey is wanting a couple other models within the line...
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by Chode » Thu Jul 09, 2020 9:43 am
jmb27 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 6:29 am
Chode wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 11:27 am
ss30378 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:09 am
Heddonfrog wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:44 am
ss30378 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:29 am
How's the balance of the X-bites with the met???
On the lock nut. For a 7-2 5.5 power it’s pretty damn good. Definitely Floats. Btw my Met is JDM and weighs in at 6.1oz.
That is excellent for a rod that light with that length and power! Thanks for the pic
I agree. the more I look at this rod, the more impressive it gets
I have the Dark Sleeper and Super Destroyer models--the rods balance right at reel lock nut/winding check. I'm using a Met 20 on the Dark Sleeper and I've used a Daiwa Type R and a Shimano Core 100 with the SD.
The end balancer that MB put into these rods (or at least the 2 models I have) are fantastic and work really well. The bait monkey is wanting a couple other models within the line...
how's the action on the DS and SD? from the little feedback I've gotten so far, the x-bites fish more like a F as opposed to XF. also, what are your intended applications for the ds and sd? upper and lower lure ratings? lastly, the question that might be on most people's minds, the sensitivity compared to nrx
. thx in advance
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by jmb27 » Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:08 am
Chode wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 9:43 am
how's the action on the DS and SD? from the little feedback I've gotten so far, the x-bites fish more like a F as opposed to XF. also, what are your intended applications for the ds and sd? upper and lower lure ratings? lastly, the question that might be on most people's minds, the sensitivity compared to nrx
. thx in advance
Dark Sleeper is listed as a Fast action rod and I think that is accurate. I've mostly fished its namesake lure with it. I can easily tell what it is going on the bottom, changes in bottom composition, etc. and detect lighter bites. I have an NRX 853c, but I have not used it in a while. If there is a difference in sensitivity between the two, I think that it is minor and the Dark Sleeper will have more utility. I fished a shaky head (rigged with a 5" kut-tail) and it was great. Additionally, I like the end balancer on the rod quite a bit as the Met 20 balances perfectly (for me). Last weekend, the DS helped me detect the smaller fish just fine and the taper got to the backbone smoothly for the 4 lber. that I caught. I do plan on using a spinnerbait/fluke/other single hook lures with it soon, but the fish have been all about the DS (lure) lately in the little lake near me.
SD is listed as medium fast and it feels like the "typical" medium fast that I'm familiar with from other MB rods. I threw frogs with it a bit and had a few slap at the frog, but no hookups last time out. The carbon handle is quite comfortable and again, the end balancer means that the Daiwa Type R and Shimano Core 100 balance right at the winding check/reel lockdown nut. I threw a carolina rig for just a bit and could tell the bottom composition fairly well. I haven't used the rod that much yet. I do plan trying some larger topwater lures with and more skipping the frogs back into the cover. Given the backbone, I have little doubt of being able to subdue a fish deep into cover. I think that the DS is more sensitive than the SD, largely a function of the fast(er) taper rod.
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by vishus » Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:07 pm
jmb27 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:08 am
SD is listed as medium fast and it feels like the "typical" medium fast that I'm familiar with from other MB rods. I think that the DS is more sensitive than the SD, largely a function of the fast(er) taper rod.
jmb27, have you fished either the Daemos or FMJ? It sounds like their both being Fast vs the SD MF would make them possibly more sensitive (similar to what you found on the DS vs SD)?
sounds like the SD would be a more versatile stick then the Daemos/FMJ, but not as focused a bottom contact rod.
I was thinking of selling off my beloved FMJ to get a SD. sounds like I just need to get the SD to add to the rod pile.