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Re: Spool options for IP68
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 5:40 am
by IlliniDawg01
TommyG wrote: ↑Fri Apr 10, 2020 4:55 am
adam lancia wrote: ↑Fri Apr 10, 2020 4:10 am
TommyG wrote: ↑Fri Apr 10, 2020 3:48 am
IlliniDawg01 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 8:32 pm
I thought the IP spool was supposed to be awesome. Are the magnets in the IP extra strong?
It's a good spool, just not a long caster, at least for me.
The stock IP spool is identical to a J-Dream spool but the magnets in the IP reels are stronger than in a Zillion, that's why you're feeling like it's really choked off.
Yup, choked off for sure. It' s been on the shelf for a quite a while, time to get some use out of it. I hope a different spool will wake it up a bit.
Do you have a regular Zillion? Try the spool in it or swap the magnets mechanisms between reels.
Re: Spool options for IP68
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 6:05 am
by goldrod
I have an unaltered IP79. The magnets are stock and I have a PE spool in it.
I really don’t have any issues with it. It’s mounted on a power versatile rod and will flick a lure 3/8oz. I took the stock spool and dropped it in a tuned TDZ 100–M. So for clarity I have two 100M reels. One has the zillion HLC spool with dimples and the other the IP79 spool. I do like the 79 spool and cast crank baits with both set ups but I think you’ll be most pleased with the HLC spool with the simples in that platform but depending on line size a PE spool in your IP68 would be the ultimate indulgence of pleasure. IMHO
I am curious as to what rod are you using as well. The rod does play a huge roll when trying to get distance
Re: Spool options for IP68
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 6:05 am
by goldrod
I have an unaltered IP79. The magnets are stock and I have a PE spool in it.
I really don’t have any issues with it. It’s mounted on a power versatile rod and will flick a lure 3/8oz. I took the stock spool and dropped it in a tuned TDZ 100–M. So for clarity I have two 100M reels. One has the zillion HLC spool with dimples and the other the IP79 spool. I do like the 79 spool and cast crank baits with both set ups but I think you’ll be most pleased with the HLC spool with the simples in that platform but depending on line size a PE spool in your IP68 would be the ultimate indulgence of pleasure. IMHO
I am curious as to what rod are you using as well. The rod does play a huge roll when trying to get distance
Re: Spool options for IP68
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 6:26 am
by MountainMan 83
I have an extra brake magnet set plate assembly for a righty OG Zillion if you want to try that route.
Re: Spool options for IP68
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 7:25 am
by adam lancia
IlliniDawg01 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 10, 2020 5:40 am
TommyG wrote: ↑Fri Apr 10, 2020 4:55 am
adam lancia wrote: ↑Fri Apr 10, 2020 4:10 am
TommyG wrote: ↑Fri Apr 10, 2020 3:48 am
IlliniDawg01 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 8:32 pm
I thought the IP spool was supposed to be awesome. Are the magnets in the IP extra strong?
It's a good spool, just not a long caster, at least for me.
The stock IP spool is identical to a J-Dream spool but the magnets in the IP reels are stronger than in a Zillion, that's why you're feeling like it's really choked off.
Yup, choked off for sure. It' s been on the shelf for a quite a while, time to get some use out of it. I hope a different spool will wake it up a bit.
Do you have a regular Zillion? Try the spool in it or swap the magnets mechanisms between reels.
I have 2 J-Dream's but I don't have an IP or an HLC spool anymore. They were just too fast for how I cast, and I modified the J-Dream spools to take the black Ray's Studio inductor
Re: Spool options for IP68
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 9:45 am
by toddmc
I have no idea what the inductor spring is like in the IP, but I would start with an R+ or HLC spring to see if that helps. They are probably stiffer, which will decrease the magnet force. Has anybody tried this?
Re: Spool options for IP68
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 3:41 pm
by LowRange
IlliniDawg01 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 8:32 pm
I thought the IP spool was supposed to be awesome. Are the magnets in the IP extra strong?
I think so. My stock spool is a great all arounder. Light weight and controlled enough to be almost SV like when skipping but more free and long casting than an SV when I want it to be. As a dedicated long caster of 1/2 oz and up the HLC beats it but is worse in every other way. I use my HLC spool with braid for frogs and flouro on the stock spool for jigs and plastics. Rod is a gen 1 Orochi PP.
Re: Spool options for IP68
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 6:42 pm
by TommyG
MountainMan 83 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 10, 2020 6:26 am
I have an extra brake magnet set plate assembly for a righty OG Zillion if you want to try that route.
Of course I have a lefty!
Re: Spool options for IP68
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 6:44 pm
by TommyG
toddmc wrote: ↑Fri Apr 10, 2020 9:45 am
I have no idea what the inductor spring is like in the IP, but I would start with an R+ or HLC spring to see if that helps. They are probably stiffer, which will decrease the magnet force. Has anybody tried this?
I do have a R+ spring, may be an improvement!
Re: Spool options for IP68
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 6:51 pm
by TommyG
goldrod wrote: ↑Fri Apr 10, 2020 6:05 am
I have an unaltered IP79. The magnets are stock and I have a PE spool in it.
I really don’t have any issues with it. It’s mounted on a power versatile rod and will flick a lure 3/8oz. I took the stock spool and dropped it in a tuned TDZ 100–M. So for clarity I have two 100M reels. One has the zillion HLC spool with dimples and the other the IP79 spool. I do like the 79 spool and cast crank baits with both set ups but I think you’ll be most pleased with the HLC spool with the simples in that platform but depending on line size a PE spool in your IP68 would be the ultimate indulgence of pleasure. IMHO
I am curious as to what rod are you using as well. The rod does play a huge roll when trying to get distance
For the heavier lures i have an old Kistler 7-8 a- rig rod. Currently trying out the 7-6 hvy feel n reel.
Re: Spool options for IP68
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 8:40 pm
by IlliniDawg01
adam lancia wrote: ↑Fri Apr 10, 2020 7:25 am
IlliniDawg01 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 10, 2020 5:40 am
TommyG wrote: ↑Fri Apr 10, 2020 4:55 am
adam lancia wrote: ↑Fri Apr 10, 2020 4:10 am
TommyG wrote: ↑Fri Apr 10, 2020 3:48 am
It's a good spool, just not a long caster, at least for me.
The stock IP spool is identical to a J-Dream spool but the magnets in the IP reels are stronger than in a Zillion, that's why you're feeling like it's really choked off.
Yup, choked off for sure. It' s been on the shelf for a quite a while, time to get some use out of it. I hope a different spool will wake it up a bit.
Do you have a regular Zillion? Try the spool in it or swap the magnets mechanisms between reels.
I have 2 J-Dream's but I don't have an IP or an HLC spool anymore. They were just too fast for how I cast, and I modified the J-Dream spools to take the black Ray's Studio inductor
If memory serves, I think the JDream leans the other way. I'm pretty sure it has weaker magnets than a stock Zillion, kinda like an OG Steez.
DaveJ