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Re: P5 super destroyer
Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:38 pm
by jmb27
Chode wrote: ↑Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:23 am
my goodness the balance of these rods is absolutely fantastic. now y can't the nrx go this route?
End Balancer FTW!
Both models that I have (DS and SD), the rods balance right at the winding check/lockdown nut--as seen in the picture in this thread with any of the three reels (Met '20, Daiwa Type R, Core 100) that I've used.
Re: P5 super destroyer
Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 4:22 pm
by Drakestar
jmb27 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:37 pm
I have the P5 SD and it is a med-fast action. If you are familiar with other MB rods than it fits in line with the med-fast tapers of some of their Evoluzion rods (imo). The rod is light, but has a lot of backbone.
With that slower taper... is the tip crisp and whippy enough to throw jerkbaits on this rod? (Looks a bit too heavy to be a dedicated jerkbait setup, just checking on versatility.)
Re: P5 super destroyer
Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 5:24 pm
by Big-Bass
How would an IP68 balance on a P5 SD?
Re: P5 super destroyer
Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 5:44 pm
by FamKench
Big-Bass wrote: ↑Thu Aug 20, 2020 5:24 pm
How would an IP68 balance on a P5 SD?
Not sure about the IP68 but here is the balance point with an Aldeberan BFS XG (4.8oz).
Simply amazing!
Re: P5 super destroyer
Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 6:25 pm
by Big-Bass
Wow! That must be a feather!
Re: P5 super destroyer
Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 6:46 pm
by FamKench
Big-Bass wrote: ↑Thu Aug 20, 2020 6:25 pm
Wow! That must be a feather!
The rod weighs 4.4oz. One of the websites says so and I verified with a digital scale.
It is just extremely well balanced.
Re: P5 super destroyer
Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 6:57 pm
by bbates3
My madbull was 3.9 oz
Interesting
Re: P5 super destroyer
Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 8:25 pm
by FamKench
bbates3 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 20, 2020 6:57 pm
My madbull was 3.9 oz
Interesting
Sounds about right. Lists them at 116g.
All the weights can be found here.
https://www.americanlegacyfishing.com/m ... -rods.html
The SD is listed at 126g or ~4.45oz which is spot on with what my digital scale says.
Imagine the siglett at 2.78oz with the aldebaran at 4.8 as a bfs rod.. superrrr light. Lighter than many baitcasting reels alone.
Re: P5 super destroyer
Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 6:13 am
by Chode
FamKench wrote: ↑Thu Aug 20, 2020 5:44 pm
Big-Bass wrote: ↑Thu Aug 20, 2020 5:24 pm
How would an IP68 balance on a P5 SD?
Not sure about the IP68 but here is the balance point with an Aldeberan BFS XG (4.8oz).
Simply amazing!
Re: P5 super destroyer
Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 6:17 am
by jmb27
Drakestar wrote: ↑Thu Aug 20, 2020 4:22 pm
jmb27 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:37 pm
I have the P5 SD and it is a med-fast action. If you are familiar with other MB rods than it fits in line with the med-fast tapers of some of their Evoluzion rods (imo). The rod is light, but has a lot of backbone.
With that slower taper... is the tip crisp and whippy enough to throw jerkbaits on this rod? (Looks a bit too heavy to be a dedicated jerkbait setup, just checking on versatility.)
Hmmmm... I haven't fished a jerkbait with it yet--I do think that it would "work" with the med-fast taper. Maybe w/the larger jerkbaits 3/4 to 1 oz. it would work well.
I plan on using the SD more soon--want to try non-frog topwaters and finally get around to pitching a jig/worm into cover, since that's what the rod is supposed to do real well.
Re: P5 super destroyer
Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 6:23 am
by jmb27
Big-Bass wrote: ↑Thu Aug 20, 2020 5:24 pm
How would an IP68 balance on a P5 SD?
Fwiw, I've used a Daiwa Zillion Type R (8.5 ounces) and a Shimano Core 100MG (6.1 ounces) w/the SD and both balanced right at the winding check/lockdown nut. The end balancer on these rods is a nice, understated feature, imo.
Re: P5 super destroyer
Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 8:08 am
by Drakestar
I ordered a SD from TTT
I already have the FMJ as my main jig rod and love it. Will see how the SD performs at various techniques, reading this thread has me pretty confident it’ll find a niche (and will be a good rod to take to new spots where I don’t know what to expect).
Re: P5 super destroyer
Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 9:20 pm
by Bass1980
Anyone have a Phase 3 Super Destroyer to compare with this new P5 SD? Regret selling my P3SD everyday as it was an amazing punch shotting rod and dock skipping jig rod. I was going to try to find 2 of these this winter but the P5 has me interested.
I had a JDM New Destroyer Super Destroyer. Never got to fish it but handling it and pitching a jig indoors I felt this version was a lot stiffer than the P3 version. A true jig rod where the P3 had a fast action but softer tip. Almost felt like the P3 was F5.5.
Re: P5 super destroyer
Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 5:21 pm
by Drakestar
Got my Super Destroyer today. Looks cool. I didn't realize that the rod has micro guides all along the blank, though. They're as small as on my K2 and seem like a poor choice on a jig rod that wants to run 50lbs braid and up to 20lbs mono leaders. My FG knot seems to go through the guides "just fine" on a cast , but I'm worried it'll affect distance.
Here are a couple of quick comparison shots between P5 SD and the FMJ. Not sure yet if I keep that white reel on the SD, can't decide if it's too tacky or kinda cool (or both).
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Re: P5 super destroyer
Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 5:25 pm
by goldrod
Drakestar wrote: ↑Fri Aug 28, 2020 5:21 pm
Got my Super Destroyer today. Looks cool. I didn't realize that the rod has micro guides all along the blank, though. They're as small as on my K2 and seem like a poor choice on a jig rod that wants to run 50lbs braid and up to 20lbs mono leaders. My FG knot seems to go through the guides "just fine" on a cast , but I'm worried it'll affect distance.
Here are a couple of quick comparison shots between P5 SD and the FMJ. Not sure yet if I keep that white reel on the SD, can't decide if it's too tacky or kinda cool (or both).
Destroyers.jpgDestroyers2.jpg
IS79 would look
pretty good
Either way congratulations on your P5
Keep the updates coming
I already have the FMJ as my main jig rod and love it. Will see how the SD performs at various techniques, reading this thread has me pretty confident it’ll find a niche (and will be a good rod to take to new spots where I don’t know what to expect).
pretty good