Shimano Scorpion 70HG v Scorpion XT 1000
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Shimano Scorpion 70HG v Scorpion XT 1000
It's been years since I last posted any images of reels on TT forum. So, here's my take on the new Scorpion 70HG and a side by side comparison with the Scorpion XT1000. This is not a full stripdown comparison. Maybe TT can do that real soon? I just received this reel yesterday and have yet to spool it with line. This is not a performance review.
The 70HG may look slightly larger than the XT1000 in this image but I can tell you that both reels are nearly identical in size, except for the 70HG's larger, slightly wider gearbox to accommodate larger 7.2:1 gears. I like the 85mm handle. 80mm feels a little too short on the XT1000. The aluminum dragstar is a standout upgrade in my opinion.
This may not be the best shot... In terms of palming height, both 70HG and XT1000 are virtually identical.
Just to give you an idea of the size of this reel in relation to my left hand.
Nearly identical in terms of size, except for the 6.3:1 gears in the XT1000's slightly smaller gearbox.
View from the the non-gear side, the palming height is nearly identical.
From the front. The XT1000 is one of my favourite reels and I use it a lot, from perch, bass to peacock bass. I like the profile of the 70HG even more. Call me old school. I like my Daiwa TD-Z and the top plate of the 70HG does remind me of the TD-Z.
Though the 70HG's centrifugal brakes require a slightly larger housing, you can tell by the bulge, the reel sits really flat on the rod.
The 70HG weighs 6.6oz or (187g). Shimano website says 190. So, 187g is pretty close. Just a fraction lighter than the XT1000.
Shimano website says the XT1000 weighs 190g. Mine weighs 6.9oz or 194g and that's with a little bit of fluorocarbon backing as you can see in this image.
Spool diameter is identical but the length is different. 70HG is longer and won't fit the XT1000. Bummer...
In my opinion, the 70HG is very Daiwa by design and I love that in a Shimano reel.
and of course very different to the XT1000 as you can see in this image.
And lastly, it's Made in Malaysia as with the Curado series and Scorpion 200.
Out of the box, it's not as smooth as my Scorpion XT1000. Maybe the bearings aren't properly lubed I don't know. This reel feels really solid and it sure is an incredibly fun reel to fish.
The 70HG may look slightly larger than the XT1000 in this image but I can tell you that both reels are nearly identical in size, except for the 70HG's larger, slightly wider gearbox to accommodate larger 7.2:1 gears. I like the 85mm handle. 80mm feels a little too short on the XT1000. The aluminum dragstar is a standout upgrade in my opinion.
This may not be the best shot... In terms of palming height, both 70HG and XT1000 are virtually identical.
Just to give you an idea of the size of this reel in relation to my left hand.
Nearly identical in terms of size, except for the 6.3:1 gears in the XT1000's slightly smaller gearbox.
View from the the non-gear side, the palming height is nearly identical.
From the front. The XT1000 is one of my favourite reels and I use it a lot, from perch, bass to peacock bass. I like the profile of the 70HG even more. Call me old school. I like my Daiwa TD-Z and the top plate of the 70HG does remind me of the TD-Z.
Though the 70HG's centrifugal brakes require a slightly larger housing, you can tell by the bulge, the reel sits really flat on the rod.
The 70HG weighs 6.6oz or (187g). Shimano website says 190. So, 187g is pretty close. Just a fraction lighter than the XT1000.
Shimano website says the XT1000 weighs 190g. Mine weighs 6.9oz or 194g and that's with a little bit of fluorocarbon backing as you can see in this image.
Spool diameter is identical but the length is different. 70HG is longer and won't fit the XT1000. Bummer...
In my opinion, the 70HG is very Daiwa by design and I love that in a Shimano reel.
and of course very different to the XT1000 as you can see in this image.
And lastly, it's Made in Malaysia as with the Curado series and Scorpion 200.
Out of the box, it's not as smooth as my Scorpion XT1000. Maybe the bearings aren't properly lubed I don't know. This reel feels really solid and it sure is an incredibly fun reel to fish.
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Re: Shimano Scorpion 70HG v Scorpion XT 1000
Awesome side by side - much appreciated!
Re: Shimano Scorpion 70HG v Scorpion XT 1000
Thanks for the great side by side. Also thanks for answering the question on where it was made. I am liking the fact of the spool dimensions being the the same. I'm now wondering if a spool shaft adapter could be made and the brakes swapped to make the old spools work? Hmm I may have to get one to experiment...
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Re: Shimano Scorpion 70HG v Scorpion XT 1000
Nice pics and write up. Does the Scorpion 70 have a bearing on the spool?
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Re: Shimano Scorpion 70HG v Scorpion XT 1000
Thanks No bearing on Scorpion 70 spoolBootytrain wrote:Nice pics and write up. Does the Scorpion 70 have a bearing on the spool?
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Re: Shimano Scorpion 70HG v Scorpion XT 1000
You're welcomess30378 wrote:Thanks for the great side by side. Also thanks for answering the question on where it was made. I am liking the fact of the spool dimensions being the the same. I'm now wondering if a spool shaft adapter could be made and the brakes swapped to make the old spools work? Hmm I may have to get one to experiment...
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Re: Shimano Scorpion 70HG v Scorpion XT 1000
Thanks for posting this!
Be sure to let us know how they compare in performance.
I love the xt1000 & have been planning on adding another, then I saw the new scorp & decided to wait.
Be sure to let us know how they compare in performance.
I love the xt1000 & have been planning on adding another, then I saw the new scorp & decided to wait.
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Re: Shimano Scorpion 70HG v Scorpion XT 1000
wider side plate is for the XShip not so much the larger gears. My 1000xts have 7.7 gears but it's a great to see pics comparing the 2. I'm going to order 1 or 2 to add to the line up
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Re: Shimano Scorpion 70HG v Scorpion XT 1000
ss30378 wrote:Thanks for the great side by side. Also thanks for answering the question on where it was made. I am liking the fact of the spool dimensions being the the same. I'm now wondering if a spool shaft adapter could be made and the brakes swapped to make the old spools work? Hmm I may have to get one to experiment...
Not going to happen with the longer shaft for the Xship and SVS
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Re: Shimano Scorpion 70HG v Scorpion XT 1000
Very cool comparison. It is a good looking reel. It does resemble a Daiwa more so than previous generations once you pull the spool.
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Re: Shimano Scorpion 70HG v Scorpion XT 1000
I was clueless about the XShip system and never thought that XShip requires such a wide sideplate. Thanks for the info.fishingandfords wrote:wider side plate is for the XShip not so much the larger gears. My 1000xts have 7.7 gears but it's a great to see pics comparing the 2. I'm going to order 1 or 2 to add to the line up
Where did you purchase those 7.7 gears (with pinion maybe?) for your XT1000?
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Re: Shimano Scorpion 70HG v Scorpion XT 1000
very cool!
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Re: Shimano Scorpion 70HG v Scorpion XT 1000
Fishingboy wrote:I was clueless about the XShip system and never thought that XShip requires such a wide sideplate. Thanks for the info.fishingandfords wrote:wider side plate is for the XShip not so much the larger gears. My 1000xts have 7.7 gears but it's a great to see pics comparing the 2. I'm going to order 1 or 2 to add to the line up
Where did you purchase those 7.7 gears (with pinion maybe?) for your XT1000?
Japan tackle. There out of the brenious
Re: Shimano Scorpion 70HG v Scorpion XT 1000
Great report and photos thanks Fishingboy.
Re: Shimano Scorpion 70HG v Scorpion XT 1000
That reel looks great and has me considering selling my curado 51 for a scorpion 71 lol.