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Lower gear ratio for SS Air

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 8:02 am
by NorCoMike
Been doing research and looking into lowering the gear ratio on an SS Air. Can it be done? what gear set would fit? Im stepping into the BFS game and im not sure if the fast retrieve will be a good thing or a bad thing. What ration do you like for thowing 1/8th oz jerkbaits and cranks?

Re: Lower gear ratio for SS Air

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 9:54 am
by hoohoorjoo
I have 6.3 gears in mine for the same reason, because I am tossing moving baits like tiny cranks, curlytail grubs and small spinners exclusively. I swapped gears from an SS SV103H. Any of the SS SV gears will fit.

Re: Lower gear ratio for SS Air

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:16 am
by NorCoMike
That's amazing! I have never played with baitcasters. Is it difficult to change gears in them? I will do some research but im sure there are write ups out there for this.

Re: Lower gear ratio for SS Air

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:24 am
by NorCoMike
Another question tackletrap doesn't seem to have anything besides 8.1 gear sets. Do you have a source to order other gear sets?

Re: Lower gear ratio for SS Air

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:13 am
by hoohoorjoo
Plat and Japan Tackle can both help. Email them and tell them what you need. Be sure to specify if it's a LH or RH reel. Both will source and price a gear set for you. Or you can do what I did....buy the other reel and swap gears. Sell the other one with the 8.1 gears. It will likely sell quickly, because the high speed reels are what people want now, and the 103H is gold trimmed. This matches a lot of rods, like the MB Destroyer models.

Re: Lower gear ratio for SS Air

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:47 am
by NorCoMike
Thank you! I knew it couldn't be just me that didn't want that fast ratio!

Re: Lower gear ratio for SS Air

Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 2:30 am
by adam lancia
I'm relatively certain that parts from an original Zillion will fit, but to be safe, call the guys at Tackle Trap and ask. They'll know for sure.

Re: Lower gear ratio for SS Air

Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 4:29 am
by hoohoorjoo
NorCoMike wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:16 am
Is it difficult to change gears in them? I will do some research but im sure there are write ups out there for this.
If you have basic mechanical skills, a gear swap is fairly easy on most baitcasters. If you aren't comfortable, give Bryan a call at the Tackle Trap and they can do the work for you. They can also likely source the gear set for you, if you call and tell them what you want/need.

Re: Lower gear ratio for SS Air

Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 7:04 am
by NorCoMike
Sent an email to Tackle trap to see what they say but haven't heard from them yet. Plat did email back already and wants to know what part numbers i want. From looking at the diagram i need 57 which is the pinion and 81 which is the main gear. When you do a gear change is there anything else that needs to be swapped or is it just those two parts?

Re: Lower gear ratio for SS Air

Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:22 am
by hoohoorjoo
NorCoMike wrote:
Fri Jan 17, 2020 7:04 am
Sent an email to Tackle trap to see what they say but haven't heard from them yet. Plat did email back already and wants to know what part numbers i want. From looking at the diagram i need 57 which is the pinion and 81 which is the main gear. When you do a gear change is there anything else that needs to be swapped or is it just those two parts?
Just those 2 parts are all you need. The existing drag washer and top pressure plate can be reused.

Re: Lower gear ratio for SS Air

Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:53 am
by NorCoMike
Thanks again! going to let them know and see if they can get them ordered for me! Since I'm asking you so many questions do you have an opinion on the drag clicker mod?

Re: Lower gear ratio for SS Air

Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 3:21 pm
by hoohoorjoo
NorCoMike wrote:
Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:53 am
Thanks again! going to let them know and see if they can get them ordered for me! Since I'm asking you so many questions do you have an opinion on the drag clicker mod?
I like the drag clicker feature that comes stock on the Steez CT. It seems beneficial on a finesse reel with light line and low drag settings. Never tried Oleg's clicker conversion, but the general consensus here is that it works as advertised.

Re: Lower gear ratio for SS Air

Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 5:46 pm
by Sore Thumb
hoohoorjoo wrote:
Fri Jan 17, 2020 3:21 pm
NorCoMike wrote:
Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:53 am
Thanks again! going to let them know and see if they can get them ordered for me! Since I'm asking you so many questions do you have an opinion on the drag clicker mod?
I like the drag clicker feature that comes stock on the Steez CT. It seems beneficial on a finesse reel with light line and low drag settings. Never tried Oleg's clicker conversion, but the general consensus here is that it works as advertised.
Can you explain your liking of a drag clicker? We fish a bit differently down here but cant see a need

Re: Lower gear ratio for SS Air

Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 7:01 pm
by hoohoorjoo
Sore Thumb wrote:
Sat Jan 18, 2020 5:46 pm
hoohoorjoo wrote:
Fri Jan 17, 2020 3:21 pm
NorCoMike wrote:
Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:53 am
Thanks again! going to let them know and see if they can get them ordered for me! Since I'm asking you so many questions do you have an opinion on the drag clicker mod?
I like the drag clicker feature that comes stock on the Steez CT. It seems beneficial on a finesse reel with light line and low drag settings. Never tried Oleg's clicker conversion, but the general consensus here is that it works as advertised.
Can you explain your liking of a drag clicker? We fish a bit differently down here but cant see a need
When fishing light line, you can tell when the drag is slipping and equate that to how much pressure you are putting on the fish. It's like fishing an ultralight spinning setup, knowing when to ease up and when to put pressure.

Re: Lower gear ratio for SS Air

Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 9:56 pm
by Sore Thumb
hoohoorjoo wrote:
Sat Jan 18, 2020 7:01 pm
Sore Thumb wrote:
Sat Jan 18, 2020 5:46 pm
hoohoorjoo wrote:
Fri Jan 17, 2020 3:21 pm
NorCoMike wrote:
Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:53 am
Thanks again! going to let them know and see if they can get them ordered for me! Since I'm asking you so many questions do you have an opinion on the drag clicker mod?
I like the drag clicker feature that comes stock on the Steez CT. It seems beneficial on a finesse reel with light line and low drag settings. Never tried Oleg's clicker conversion, but the general consensus here is that it works as advertised.
Can you explain your liking of a drag clicker? We fish a bit differently down here but cant see a need
When fishing light line, you can tell when the drag is slipping and equate that to how much pressure you are putting on the fish. It's like fishing an ultralight spinning setup, knowing when to ease up and when to put pressure.
Thanks for the reply. I usually use my thumb for that. Might give it a go