50lb Braid or 20lb Flouro for swim baits?
50lb Braid or 20lb Flouro for swim baits?
I noticed in the Tackle Tour swim bait testing its either 50lb Suffix performance braid or 20 - 25lb FC.
I'm wondering what everyone else uses for large swim baits such as the baby tool, wake jr, BBZ.
Also if you can tell me how often you've lost a swim bait with each of your lines.
I bought a BBZ and tempted to pick up some wake jr's. I haven't fished with any large swim baits yet because I'm scared of throwing one that never comes back.
I know there is a recent topic, but it still doesn't list how many lost swim baits for each application
T3Forum/viewtopic.php?t=20155
I'm wondering what everyone else uses for large swim baits such as the baby tool, wake jr, BBZ.
Also if you can tell me how often you've lost a swim bait with each of your lines.
I bought a BBZ and tempted to pick up some wake jr's. I haven't fished with any large swim baits yet because I'm scared of throwing one that never comes back.
I know there is a recent topic, but it still doesn't list how many lost swim baits for each application
T3Forum/viewtopic.php?t=20155
Re: 50lb Braid or 20lb Flouro for swim baits?
I use 25lb FC, and have never lost a swimbait.
Re: 50lb Braid or 20lb Flouro for swim baits?
What kind of swimbait are you throwing?iangler wrote:I use 25lb FC, and have never lost a swimbait.
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Re: 50lb Braid or 20lb Flouro for swim baits?
I use 25lb flouroclear for hudds and bbz, 17lb for mattlures mission fish and mighty minnow
Re: 50lb Braid or 20lb Flouro for swim baits?
This is what I have been using lately. ( I fish stained to brown chocolate waters )
Big rig, Powell H 7.11 with Megadiff 301 and 25 lbs of P-Line Evolution or lighter rig, Okuma MH 7.6 with Daiwa TD-Z BBS and P-Line CX 20 lbs....and yes there is a hole, that will be GD 795 TL MH with Ultradiff 201 and Evolution 17 lbs........
Big rig, Powell H 7.11 with Megadiff 301 and 25 lbs of P-Line Evolution or lighter rig, Okuma MH 7.6 with Daiwa TD-Z BBS and P-Line CX 20 lbs....and yes there is a hole, that will be GD 795 TL MH with Ultradiff 201 and Evolution 17 lbs........
Re: 50lb Braid or 20lb Flouro for swim baits?
Have you thrown any swimbaits on this setup that didn't come back?SwimbaitJoe wrote:I use 25lb flouroclear for hudds and bbz, 17lb for mattlures mission fish and mighty minnow
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Some smaller Hudds, javallons, buzzbill magnums, jointed claw, and so on. Nothing too big.bab33face wrote:What kind of swimbait are you throwing?iangler wrote:I use 25lb FC, and have never lost a swimbait.
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Re: 50lb Braid or 20lb Flouro for swim baits?
I lost one hudd but it was my fault, my knot slipped when a big bass or pike hit it.besides that I had to cut a mattlures perch off that snagged a rope, but that was a different problem. I think my crucials had a lot to do with it because they have a soft tip. Before I got them I used a basspro extreme 7'6" heavy with 65 lb braid and lost three mattlures babybass to backlashes till I figured it was the line.bab33face wrote:Have you thrown any swimbaits on this setup that didn't come back?SwimbaitJoe wrote:I use 25lb flouroclear for hudds and bbz, 17lb for mattlures mission fish and mighty minnow
GO WITH 25 LB flouroclear and you wont be disappointed
Re: 50lb Braid or 20lb Flouro for swim baits?
I'm done using braid with swimbaits. I just jacked up my ms slammer(the tail came right off) because of wind knots. The lures are just too heavy to use braid. I will be moving to Fleuro or Mono from here on out.
Re: 50lb Braid or 20lb Flouro for swim baits?
I've had great results with P-line CXX (copolymer) 20 and 25.
Re: 50lb Braid or 20lb Flouro for swim baits?
Same here....I used it all last year but Evolution is thinner, less memory and stretch with at least the same abrasion resistance... and for close to the same priceSully wrote:I've had great results with P-line CXX (copolymer) 20 and 25.
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Re: 50lb Braid or 20lb Flouro for swim baits?
I'm extremely new to throwing "true" swimbaits ( just got my mattlures bluegill and baby bass last week!). So there may be others more qualified on this one. But I honestly think braid is a poor choice versus mono/flouro. You want a more "forgiving" line when heaving these baits for a number of reasons. Yes w/braid you can feel a fish breathe on your lure, but you'll probauly react a little to soon at times resulting in a missed fish or two. Also on some of the lures that don't have the stoutest hooks, braid+ a big fish can = a straightened hook.
Flouro is a great line that has revolutioned several techniques. But personally, and others may disagree w/me on this, I just don't trust going after truly big fish with it. It's too "high maintenance" for me in a big bait application. Any one ever went to cast a heavy lure w/ flouro and either had your line wrapped around your rod tip or had a big backlash during the begining of the cast and heard that "gun shot" sound as your line snaps and your lure flies off? Don't get me wrong, I LOVE my xps flouro for soft plastics, jigs, cranks, etc. but when heaving expensive heavy lures there are better options.
Today's mono's are much better than those produced even 3 or 4 years ago. There are several out there, but my personal favorites are trilene maxx and p- line evo. The trilene in 20# performed great for me in chucking 1-2oz jerkbaits, cranks, and topwaters for stripers last year,
these fish are MUCH better fighters than largemouths and I caught linesides up 28lbs. with no break offs.
Sorry for the long post, the storms knocked out my power and I'm bored
regards,
Josh
Flouro is a great line that has revolutioned several techniques. But personally, and others may disagree w/me on this, I just don't trust going after truly big fish with it. It's too "high maintenance" for me in a big bait application. Any one ever went to cast a heavy lure w/ flouro and either had your line wrapped around your rod tip or had a big backlash during the begining of the cast and heard that "gun shot" sound as your line snaps and your lure flies off? Don't get me wrong, I LOVE my xps flouro for soft plastics, jigs, cranks, etc. but when heaving expensive heavy lures there are better options.
Today's mono's are much better than those produced even 3 or 4 years ago. There are several out there, but my personal favorites are trilene maxx and p- line evo. The trilene in 20# performed great for me in chucking 1-2oz jerkbaits, cranks, and topwaters for stripers last year,
these fish are MUCH better fighters than largemouths and I caught linesides up 28lbs. with no break offs.
Sorry for the long post, the storms knocked out my power and I'm bored
regards,
Josh
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Re: 50lb Braid or 20lb Flouro for swim baits?
why not use 50 lb braid with 20 lb fluoro leader? i use 30 lb fluoro as a leader but am considering downsizing in an attempt to get more bites. my current line setup is ridiculously tough. i splice the lines together with a bimini twist and albright knot. i tie to a snap with a sandiego jam knot. no problems at all with line or knot failure. with some situations, it benefits you to use regular mono. 25lb test is the way to go in so cal.
Re: 50lb Braid or 20lb Flouro for swim baits?
Eve if you use a leader you are still going to get those pesky wind knots and they are killer. I'm using 40 lb braid and my line hasn't snapped yet but I already damaged one swimbait because of the bad wind knots you get with braid using heavy baits.fishin'vince wrote:why not use 50 lb braid with 20 lb fluoro leader? i use 30 lb fluoro as a leader but am considering downsizing in an attempt to get more bites. my current line setup is ridiculously tough. i splice the lines together with a bimini twist and albright knot. i tie to a snap with a sandiego jam knot. no problems at all with line or knot failure. with some situations, it benefits you to use regular mono. 25lb test is the way to go in so cal.
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Re: 50lb Braid or 20lb Flouro for swim baits?
I started off throwing swimbaits with 65# braided line. It worked fine for a while but then I moved up in size to the Hudds and the BBZ-1 series baits. The line has a lot of stress put on it. Bad knots, lose connections, ect are not a good thing. I had a knot pull out of my braid and sent my almost new Spro BBZ-1 sailing across the water. Luckily, it was the floating version and it eventually came back to me after several heart attacks.
It could still happen with floro/mono on a line that is knicked up, but it's much easier to see/feel problems with your standard lines.
My line now is 30# P-Line CXX and I love it. Will most likely jump down to a 20 or 25 after this season to get a little more action out of the baits.
It could still happen with floro/mono on a line that is knicked up, but it's much easier to see/feel problems with your standard lines.
My line now is 30# P-Line CXX and I love it. Will most likely jump down to a 20 or 25 after this season to get a little more action out of the baits.