What’s the name of this knot?
Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:35 am
Don't know if I've ever seen an official name for this knot, but I started using it a while back. Super fast/easy to tie with light line and the hook always stands out perfectly straight. With other knots I'd find myself adjusting or retying much more often after the hook started sticking out at a weird angle, but I might just suck at other knots...trevorvandam wrote: ↑Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:35 amhttps://youtu.be/t-XhKBlMnZ8
Also, has anybody used it before?
Houndfish wrote: ↑Sat Sep 07, 2019 3:38 pmIt's very close to a rope knot called the "Alpine Butterfly", one of my most favorite rope knots.
I have tried the fishing version a few times but I am getting really inconsistent results when I test the knots to breaking. Some times it feels like it takes almost no pressure to pop it at the hook. I have not spent any real time with it though, it's on my list for winter projects as I really hate the Palomar and would love an alternative.
When I first started using this knot I had a hard time cinching it down on the front of the eye. Now, when I cinch down I pull really lightly to about 75%, just enough that the loop in the middle closes up against the eye. Then I wet the knot and take both the main line and tag end and pull straight out from the eye to about 90%, enough that the knot is holding on the front of the eye. Then I cinch down the rest of the way. I haven't had breakage issues using a long leader of 6# or 8# Red Label.edwelch1 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2019 9:23 pmMy initial thought is that it's actually due to how part of the knot ends up being against where the eye of the hook is rolled to touch itself, and if the end of the wire is rough at all, it's prone to cutting the line and it seems like a weak knot strength.
Not sure much could be done about that if it is the case, as every hook that I know of has the eye formed by rolling the end of the wire back on itself, where inconsistencies in production are going to make that "gap" sharp on some hooks. And I'm not sure if this knot can really be tied so that there's not part of the knot touching that part of the hook, at least not easily.
I think I understand what you're explaining, and it seems like that would definitely make a difference. Going to have to try this out next time I tie up, thanks for the tip!Poisson wrote: ↑Mon Sep 09, 2019 5:56 amWhen I first started using this knot I had a hard time cinching it down on the front of the eye. Now, when I cinch down I pull really lightly to about 75%, just enough that the loop in the middle closes up against the eye. Then I wet the knot and take both the main line and tag end and pull straight out from the eye to about 90%, enough that the knot is holding on the front of the eye. Then I cinch down the rest of the way. I haven't had breakage issues using a long leader of 6# or 8# Red Label.