Decoy egg snaps questions???
Decoy egg snaps questions???
So I've been using these egg snaps for about 2 months now. The smaller sized ones like the size 1 and 1.5 seem a little flimsy. Good at first but putting lures on is a pain. Taking them off is more of a pain. I found myself having to slightly bend them to take lures off. Anyways catching some fish on my 110 I noticed that the snap came undone and was bent. Worries me that they can come undone and I can lose some expensive baits. The bigger sized snaps for bigbaits seem like they don't have this problem.
Anyone else notice this?
Have any tips for putting lures on and taking them off using these snaps?
Anyone else notice this?
Have any tips for putting lures on and taking them off using these snaps?
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I use them a lot, the smaller 1 and 1.5 for spoons and UL hardbaits and the 3 and 4 sizes for frogs and smaller glidebaits. The trick I have found with the smaller ones is that you have to pick and choose which lures you use them on, some lures will have a line tie that isn't suitable for them for the reasons you mentioned. The only advice I can give is to buy a pack of each size and keep trying them to see which size is best for which lure.
Dispet being fussy, they are the only snaps I have found that I can stand. They don't seem to pick up debris more then just a direct tie and using them on frogs has been amazing so far, I can walk any frog on any rod from any angle with the snaps and they come through cover just as well as the bare frog. I have yet to have one fail or open up, but I am very very careful about stressing them when adding or removing a lure.
Dispet being fussy, they are the only snaps I have found that I can stand. They don't seem to pick up debris more then just a direct tie and using them on frogs has been amazing so far, I can walk any frog on any rod from any angle with the snaps and they come through cover just as well as the bare frog. I have yet to have one fail or open up, but I am very very careful about stressing them when adding or removing a lure.
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Thanks. These snaps seem like a good idea but they need a better way for putting lure on and taking off imo.Houndfish wrote: ↑Sat Apr 25, 2020 11:06 amI use them a lot, the smaller 1 and 1.5 for spoons and UL hardbaits and the 3 and 4 sizes for frogs and smaller glidebaits. The trick I have found with the smaller ones is that you have to pick and choose which lures you use them on, some lures will have a line tie that isn't suitable for them for the reasons you mentioned. The only advice I can give is to buy a pack of each size and keep trying them to see which size is best for which lure.
Dispet being fussy, they are the only snaps I have found that I can stand. They don't seem to pick up debris more then just a direct tie and using them on frogs has been amazing so far, I can walk any frog on any rod from any angle with the snaps and they come through cover just as well as the bare frog. I have yet to have one fail or open up, but I am very very careful about stressing them when adding or removing a lure.
I never used a snap for a frog. I'm too paranoid it might bend or break off.
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Frogging with a snap (and with a 6'4" rod!) is a lonely road to walk but so far I am really liking it. The #3 snaps are rated to 70lbs and in my yard testing they hold up to a straight pull as well as 40lb braid and out preform the braid when I pop/yank the line to try and brake it.
Sadly my state banned C&R fishing the very week I started getting topwater hits so my data set is still small, but it worked well enough last fall that I am going to keep it up until it starts failing.
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Re: Decoy egg snaps questions???
I haven't tried to the 1 or 1.5 size, but I use the size 2 egg snaps. I haven't had any issues of the snaps coming off at all after locking it in place. I've used the size 2 for jerkbaits, poppers, cranks, and spoons, and haven't had any issues so far.
I do want to try the size 1 for the finesse hardbaits that I throw on light tackle as the size 2 seems to me like it's too big.
When I first started using them, I did have some issues opening up the snap, but I've gotten used to it. I also do open up the snap a little more and bend it open like you do, but haven't had any issues of the snaps being weakened by it and opening up.
I do want to try the size 1 for the finesse hardbaits that I throw on light tackle as the size 2 seems to me like it's too big.
When I first started using them, I did have some issues opening up the snap, but I've gotten used to it. I also do open up the snap a little more and bend it open like you do, but haven't had any issues of the snaps being weakened by it and opening up.
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Re: Decoy egg snaps questions???
I have been using these without problems: OWNER 5121 HYPER WELDED QUICK SNAP
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I used to use the owner snaps with the rubber coating. They were my favorite but I can't find them anymore. So I decided to try the decoy egg snaps cause they had such good reviews.Carlos Carrapiço wrote: ↑Sat Apr 25, 2020 4:01 pmI have been using these without problems: OWNER 5121 HYPER WELDED QUICK SNAP
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The issue I would have with those is the hooked bit of metal that sticks out. The reason I am into the Eggs is that they don't snag more then tying directly for mosts lures.Carlos Carrapiço wrote: ↑Sat Apr 25, 2020 4:01 pmI have been using these without problems: OWNER 5121 HYPER WELDED QUICK SNAP
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It is nice that they don't snag on stuff as much but putting lures on and taking them off is such a pain.Houndfish wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 8:03 amThe issue I would have with those is the hooked bit of metal that sticks out. The reason I am into the Eggs is that they don't snag more then tying directly for mosts lures.Carlos Carrapiço wrote: ↑Sat Apr 25, 2020 4:01 pmI have been using these without problems: OWNER 5121 HYPER WELDED QUICK SNAP
If only there was an easier way....
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I use both the decoys and the welded owners, and really like them both. On one of my frog rods I use the owner welded snaps. I actually cut and put a small piece of heat shrink over the line. Then put my frog on and close the snap. Slide the heat shrink down over the snap where the locking pin is and heat it and press it tight. It doesn't weigh too much or inhibit action and is more weedless than any regular snap including the decoys. I've tried the same with the decoys but they are a little thicker and heavier and weigh down the same frog a little more than I liked. Both ends of the metal on the snap are exposed. The heat shrink is like a band thats just over the area where the locking pin closes. You have to cut the heat shrink off if you want to change your bait, but I don't change my frogs too often. I just like how a snap improves walking action over being directly tied on. Also the welded are most weedless with baits like rattle traps or lv500s where the locking pin is in line with the bait and facing the back of the bait.Welikan wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 10:01 amIt is nice that they don't snag on stuff as much but putting lures on and taking them off is such a pain.Houndfish wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 8:03 amThe issue I would have with those is the hooked bit of metal that sticks out. The reason I am into the Eggs is that they don't snag more then tying directly for mosts lures.Carlos Carrapiço wrote: ↑Sat Apr 25, 2020 4:01 pmI have been using these without problems: OWNER 5121 HYPER WELDED QUICK SNAP
If only there was an easier way....
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That's very interesting. I do worry about having to retie as I only run 40lb braid and only bring a single rod on bank trips, but I wonder if I could use a cigar torch to set the shrink tube in the field.domthewon wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 3:30 pmI use both the decoys and the welded owners, and really like them both. On one of my frog rods I use the owner welded snaps. I actually cut and put a small piece of heat shrink over the line. Then put my frog on and close the snap. Slide the heat shrink down over the snap where the locking pin is and heat it and press it tight. It doesn't weigh too much or inhibit action and is more weedless than any regular snap including the decoys. I've tried the same with the decoys but they are a little thicker and heavier and weigh down the same frog a little more than I liked. Both ends of the metal on the snap are exposed. The heat shrink is like a band thats just over the area where the locking pin closes. You have to cut the heat shrink off if you want to change your bait, but I don't change my frogs too often. I just like how a snap improves walking action over being directly tied on. Also the welded are most weedless with baits like rattle traps or lv500s where the locking pin is in line with the bait and facing the back of the bait.
It is every exciting to find someone else who uses snaps for frogging. I tried it as I have a great great versatile cover rod (Hyuga 72H) I use on a lot of my marsh fishing, but it's tip isn't great for walking. Once I tried it I fell in love. One of my favorite bank spots is a mile long canal that is a mix of opewater, pads, and laydowns with duckweed over about half of it. Being able to quickly swap between a frog, a different frog, a third frog, and a wakebait as I walk along is great.
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Actually I use a small butane torch lighter I got from a gas station to heat shrink it. I just don’t put it directly on the heat shrink. I wave it back and forth with the flame a few inches away. A regular lighter works also but the torch is more direct and don’t have to worry about singeing my line. I have a MB X4 destruction which is very similar to your hyuga 72. I use it for similar stuff when bank fishing and it always has a snap on it either a decoy or welded owner.Houndfish wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 4:56 pmThat's very interesting. I do worry about having to retie as I only run 40lb braid and only bring a single rod on bank trips, but I wonder if I could use a cigar torch to set the shrink tube in the field.domthewon wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 3:30 pmI use both the decoys and the welded owners, and really like them both. On one of my frog rods I use the owner welded snaps. I actually cut and put a small piece of heat shrink over the line. Then put my frog on and close the snap. Slide the heat shrink down over the snap where the locking pin is and heat it and press it tight. It doesn't weigh too much or inhibit action and is more weedless than any regular snap including the decoys. I've tried the same with the decoys but they are a little thicker and heavier and weigh down the same frog a little more than I liked. Both ends of the metal on the snap are exposed. The heat shrink is like a band thats just over the area where the locking pin closes. You have to cut the heat shrink off if you want to change your bait, but I don't change my frogs too often. I just like how a snap improves walking action over being directly tied on. Also the welded are most weedless with baits like rattle traps or lv500s where the locking pin is in line with the bait and facing the back of the bait.
It is every exciting to find someone else who uses snaps for frogging. I tried it as I have a great great versatile cover rod (Hyuga 72H) I use on a lot of my marsh fishing, but it's tip isn't great for walking. Once I tried it I fell in love. One of my favorite bank spots is a mile long canal that is a mix of opewater, pads, and laydowns with duckweed over about half of it. Being able to quickly swap between a frog, a different frog, a third frog, and a wakebait as I walk along is great.
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I am gonna print this thread out so I can wave it around when people call me crazy for using snaps! I knew I was on to something!domthewon wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 5:15 pm
Actually I use a small butane torch lighter I got from a gas station to heat shrink it. I just don’t put it directly on the heat shrink. I wave it back and forth with the flame a few inches away. A regular lighter works also but the torch is more direct and don’t have to worry about singeing my line. I have a MB X4 destruction which is very similar to your hyuga 72. I use it for similar stuff when bank fishing and it always has a snap on it either a decoy or welded owner.
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Everyone’s different, and that’s what I really like about this forum. I take what I think will work for me and run with it. If it’s not for me no big deal. I’ve never had a snap fail when fighting a frog fish, and until that happens I’ll keep fishing my frogs on a snap.Houndfish wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 5:52 pmdomthewon wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 5:15 pm
Actually I use a small butane torch lighter I got from a gas station to heat shrink it. I just don’t put it directly on the heat shrink. I wave it back and forth with the flame a few inches away. A regular lighter works also but the torch is more direct and don’t have to worry about singeing my line. I have a MB X4 destruction which is very similar to your hyuga 72. I use it for similar stuff when bank fishing and it always has a snap on it either a decoy or welded owner.
I am gonna print this thread out so I can wave it around when people call me crazy for using snaps! I knew I was on to something!