Rod for Skipping
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Rod for Skipping
What is a good rod for shipping jigs at docks. I ran across this video and they say the 7' heavy zillion is the best in there oppinion. Is this a good rod for skipping jigs or are they just trying to sell zillion rods.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hx-0vDEcC4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hx-0vDEcC4
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Re: Rod for Skipping
In general, I've found shorter rods to be the best for skipping. For lighter jigs/tubes, the mbr783 glx was very nice until I came across the steez 631, which IMO has to be one of the very best rods for this technique available. For heavier jigs 1/2 oz or more, a short heavy powered, fast action rod would be better.
One big thing I will disagree with that video on is to use mono or braid for skipping. DO NOT try to learn or start out skipping jigs on a baitcaster with fluoro as the video adviced b/c not only will it be expensive , but it's much more difficult to skip IMO. It's heavier, does not flow off the spool as smoothly, and does not skip across the top of the water easily. Believe me, mono and braid is much easier to skip. And heavier mono/braid is generally easier to control than lighter lines. Skipping is a go-to technique in my constant river smallie fishing conquest
I also find that skipping is easiest with a linear magnetic braking. Any reel that I plan on using for skipping, I tune the rotor by "fixing" the inductor. But I now use a px68 finesse special spool that is already "fixed" stock. Must be the very finest reel for skipping on the planet! Much better than even my Shimano DC reels! I can't wait to try out the new daiwa 3D mag system for skipping this year..
One big thing I will disagree with that video on is to use mono or braid for skipping. DO NOT try to learn or start out skipping jigs on a baitcaster with fluoro as the video adviced b/c not only will it be expensive , but it's much more difficult to skip IMO. It's heavier, does not flow off the spool as smoothly, and does not skip across the top of the water easily. Believe me, mono and braid is much easier to skip. And heavier mono/braid is generally easier to control than lighter lines. Skipping is a go-to technique in my constant river smallie fishing conquest
I also find that skipping is easiest with a linear magnetic braking. Any reel that I plan on using for skipping, I tune the rotor by "fixing" the inductor. But I now use a px68 finesse special spool that is already "fixed" stock. Must be the very finest reel for skipping on the planet! Much better than even my Shimano DC reels! I can't wait to try out the new daiwa 3D mag system for skipping this year..
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Re: Rod for Skipping
There are alot of opinions and preferences out there for rods and reels for skipping from the videos I watched.
Here are a couple that I liked. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sevXix_4 ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tXlODzL ... re=related
Here are a couple that I liked. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sevXix_4 ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tXlODzL ... re=related
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Re: Rod for Skipping
I have the steez 631 that I have been using with vision 110's. I really like this rod. I could see using this rod for 1/4 oz and 3/8 oz jigs. What about the px68 finesse special spool makes it good for skipping jigs? I could see my px68 and
steez 631 making a good combo. But for 1/2 oz jigs trying to pull fish out from under docks and dock cables etc, I think i'm going to give a 7' heavy fast action rod a try. I'm sure its going to take lots of practice with the cheapest mono I can find to start off with.
steez 631 making a good combo. But for 1/2 oz jigs trying to pull fish out from under docks and dock cables etc, I think i'm going to give a 7' heavy fast action rod a try. I'm sure its going to take lots of practice with the cheapest mono I can find to start off with.
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Re: Rod for Skipping
You can pretty much skip with most rods if your proficient in casting.. Just takes a lot of practice..
I spent 2 weeks skipping jigs up in WI fishing a tourney as thats pretty much all we did..That and skipping frogs..
Jigs were on a DX784c
Frogs on the Champ 735C and those are not short sticks, but they worked just fine..
Id look at a 7' rod as you still want the length to set up on fish far back in the docks and to move that line quick..
I spent 2 weeks skipping jigs up in WI fishing a tourney as thats pretty much all we did..That and skipping frogs..
Jigs were on a DX784c
Frogs on the Champ 735C and those are not short sticks, but they worked just fine..
Id look at a 7' rod as you still want the length to set up on fish far back in the docks and to move that line quick..
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Re: Rod for Skipping
It has a fixed inductor. So the mag is always on, even at slow spool speeds. I usually have brake set to 2 or 3 for both pitching and skipping. You can skip with any reel and rod, just as Nitroman said, it just takes practice. I just prefer my px/steez combo for my usual close-quarters skipping as I float down small rivers for smallmouth. It also makes an ideal jerkbait setup for my situation. I've even pulled 30# carp that I've snagged with Pointersspencerinstl wrote:What about the px68 finesse special spool makes it good for skipping jigs?
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Re: Rod for Skipping
Btw, just a tip. I've found that rod/reel really isn't that big of a factor for skipping. It's all in the casting technique. You want you lure gliding extremely parallel to the water's surface That's 80% of it IMO. The rest is rod tip and spool control after the release. Master that and you'll be able to skip a 5" senko with an abu 6500 on a trolling rod, no problem
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I like using a rod with a softer tip when skipping. If the rod is too fast of an action it doesn't work as well for me. The softer tip allows the rod to kinda sling shot the lure and give you added momentum.
Another big tip is to start off using braid, and after the cast you want to bring the rod tip up a little bit to clear up the spool a bit.
Another big tip is to start off using braid, and after the cast you want to bring the rod tip up a little bit to clear up the spool a bit.
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Re: Rod for Skipping
Ended up getting a Damiki Dark Angel Pro Bryan Thrift Casting Rod 6'9" Med Hvy. So far I really like this rod,
light, I like the length, and its designed for skipping. I'm sure with practice I will be able to skip with other rods that I have. I was doing pretty good tonight at the pond in town. Was able to get a 3/8 oz Buckeye Lures Flat Top Finesse
Jig with a Trigger X 4" Flappin Craw to Skip half way decent about 20ft from shore with the jig skipping from when it hit the water another 10 -12 ft or so. I'm sure with practice the distance will get better. I didn't think this was too bad considering this was only the 3rd time trying to skip. Was using a Daiwa Fuego. Tried using my t3 this morning but couldn't quit get it to work right for me. Was much easier to keep the backlashes down with the Fuego.
light, I like the length, and its designed for skipping. I'm sure with practice I will be able to skip with other rods that I have. I was doing pretty good tonight at the pond in town. Was able to get a 3/8 oz Buckeye Lures Flat Top Finesse
Jig with a Trigger X 4" Flappin Craw to Skip half way decent about 20ft from shore with the jig skipping from when it hit the water another 10 -12 ft or so. I'm sure with practice the distance will get better. I didn't think this was too bad considering this was only the 3rd time trying to skip. Was using a Daiwa Fuego. Tried using my t3 this morning but couldn't quit get it to work right for me. Was much easier to keep the backlashes down with the Fuego.
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Re: Rod for Skipping
Went fishing today. Caught 3 dinks on a spinnerbait. The fishing was real slow today. So, I decided I would just spend the rest of the day practicing skipping with my new dark angel rod. Was getting better as the day went along.
Was amazed where I was able to get the jig back into under brush and laydowns without getting hung up.
Really impressed with the rod and the 3/8 oz omega jig. Was having fun skipping then all of the sudden wham, a
4 lb bass. Didn't catch any more fish, but was a happy camper for the rest of the day.
Was amazed where I was able to get the jig back into under brush and laydowns without getting hung up.
Really impressed with the rod and the 3/8 oz omega jig. Was having fun skipping then all of the sudden wham, a
4 lb bass. Didn't catch any more fish, but was a happy camper for the rest of the day.
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Re: Rod for Skipping
A little off topic but - been skipping for 20+ years and I never go as heavy as 3/8oz. 1/4oz max and I use 1/8oz jig most of the time since I am normally skipping to targets in 3ft of water or less.
You can skip the heavier jig o.k., but try the lighter jigs with a heavy trailer. That trigger X craw you mentioned is great for this. I think you be suprised at how much further you will be able to skip with the lighter jigs.
All terrain jigs makes their skipping jig in an 1/8 oz thats pretty decent. They don't have that size on TW though.
I personally use the 8' compile X for skipping. The acceleration on the jig with the rods length and soft tip is phenominal.
You can skip the heavier jig o.k., but try the lighter jigs with a heavy trailer. That trigger X craw you mentioned is great for this. I think you be suprised at how much further you will be able to skip with the lighter jigs.
All terrain jigs makes their skipping jig in an 1/8 oz thats pretty decent. They don't have that size on TW though.
I personally use the 8' compile X for skipping. The acceleration on the jig with the rods length and soft tip is phenominal.
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Re: Rod for Skipping
Thanks for the suggestion of the lighter jigs steezman, I will have to give it a try. The Omega jigs have a big flat spot on the bottom of the jigs that make them easy to skip. They suggest using a 7/16 jig for skipping docks to get futher
back under the dock. I wasn't doing too bad with the 3/8 oz jig. When I get better at it I will loosen up the spool tension knob a little and back the brake off a couple of notches on my zillion. I liked the omega jigs better than the
buckeye finesse jigs, but both are quality jigs. Besides the Trigger X Craw, I was also using the Chompers 5" twin tail
grub jig trailer. I liked the twin tail a little better the trigger x craw seemed a little big for a finesse jig.
back under the dock. I wasn't doing too bad with the 3/8 oz jig. When I get better at it I will loosen up the spool tension knob a little and back the brake off a couple of notches on my zillion. I liked the omega jigs better than the
buckeye finesse jigs, but both are quality jigs. Besides the Trigger X Craw, I was also using the Chompers 5" twin tail
grub jig trailer. I liked the twin tail a little better the trigger x craw seemed a little big for a finesse jig.
Thanks for the epiphany captain obvious