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Re: Top Water rod for 1ozers

Post by poisonokie » Wed Nov 20, 2019 7:37 pm

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I always had a thing for glass. When you absolutely need a do all treble hook rod IMHO
I don't know. IMHO It's not much fun for walking baits or anything where the rod is used to impart the action.
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Re: Top Water rod for 1ozers

Post by goldrod » Thu Nov 21, 2019 4:52 am

poisonokie wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2019 7:37 pm
Cristo wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2019 3:30 pm
I always had a thing for glass. When you absolutely need a do all treble hook rod IMHO
I don't know. IMHO It's not much fun for walking baits or anything where the rod is used to impart the action.
It’s glass but does not seem like it. NuGlas is more like it.
Honestly if you’ve got to give it a shot
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Re: Top Water rod for 1ozers

Post by Cristo » Thu Nov 21, 2019 6:29 am

Well I suppose Poisonokie some can adapt better than others and make a rod do what it needs to do relative to the situation imparting action and all :-k
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Re: Top Water rod for 1ozers

Post by Cristo » Thu Nov 21, 2019 6:45 am

I am stirring the pot here :lol: I have a soft spot for glass as it served me most excellent for all my treble needs in my YG years 8-)
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Re: Top Water rod for 1ozers

Post by TommyG » Fri Nov 22, 2019 4:32 am

bronzefly wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:20 am
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Thu Nov 07, 2019 8:53 am
Some goofy a** suggestions here even with subjectivity thrown in :lol:
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I've been throwing the I-Jack on the new Megabass Destroyer Wild Bunch Carbon Head, among other things. It handles 1 oz range top water baits very nicely. That Valkyrie 71H is an interesting option too... I know how much I enjoy the 71MH version in general.
Off topic, are all the MB Valkyrie rods spiral wrapped? Thanks

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Re: Top Water rod for 1ozers

Post by bronzefly » Fri Nov 22, 2019 4:39 am

TommyG wrote:
Fri Nov 22, 2019 4:32 am
bronzefly wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:20 am

I've been throwing the I-Jack on the new Megabass Destroyer Wild Bunch Carbon Head, among other things. It handles 1 oz range top water baits very nicely. That Valkyrie 71H is an interesting option too... I know how much I enjoy the 71MH version in general.
Off topic, are all the MB Valkyrie rods spiral wrapped? Thanks
No. The 7'1" H and 7'6" XXH are spiral wrapped, the others aren't.
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Re: Top Water rod for 1ozers

Post by TommyG » Fri Nov 22, 2019 4:43 am

bronzefly wrote:
Fri Nov 22, 2019 4:39 am
TommyG wrote:
Fri Nov 22, 2019 4:32 am
bronzefly wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:20 am

I've been throwing the I-Jack on the new Megabass Destroyer Wild Bunch Carbon Head, among other things. It handles 1 oz range top water baits very nicely. That Valkyrie 71H is an interesting option too... I know how much I enjoy the 71MH version in general.
Off topic, are all the MB Valkyrie rods spiral wrapped? Thanks
No. The 7'1" H and 7'6" XXH are spiral wrapped, the others aren't.
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Re: Top Water rod for 1ozers

Post by poisonokie » Tue Nov 26, 2019 7:44 am

Cristo wrote:
Thu Nov 21, 2019 6:29 am
Well I suppose Poisonokie some can adapt better than others and make a rod do what it needs to do relative to the situation imparting action and all :-k
I see what you're saying, glass is a lot of fun and really effective for trebles, and like I said before, I like it for things like i-Louds, Pompadours, Buzzjets, Chan Wakes, etc, and especially for cranking because the super soft tip lets them suck in the bait easier.

For walkers, poppers, and jerkbaits I just think a short, lightweight, sensitive, super balanced, responsive and crisp rod is best and glass doesn't give you that. The hook set technique is different, so the action needs to be faster. That's just one topwater enthusiast's opinion, though.
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Re: Top Water rod for 1ozers

Post by Cristo » Tue Nov 26, 2019 8:32 am

Just busting balls I agree with your sensibilities. Truth be told I no longer have a glass in my arsenal, only because I have no need as i am currently chucking shoes :lol: I always loved the security they bring when fighting though and absolutely loved my old Powell Max glass for TW even walkers 8-)
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Re: Top Water rod for 1ozers

Post by poisonokie » Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:22 am

Cristo wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2019 8:32 am
Just busting balls I agree with your sensibilities. Truth be told I no longer have a glass in my arsenal, only because I have no need as i am currently chucking shoes :lol: I always loved the security they bring when fighting though and absolutely loved my old Powell Max glass for TW even walkers 8-)
Oh, I know. Just thought I'd clarify. The first bass I ever landed over 5 lbs was on a Zara Spook fished on 40# PP, Lexa 100 4.9:1, and a Browning Silaflex 7' MH glass rod, so I know it can be done, but in my hands everything about that combo is far from ideal. IIRC, the bait straight dropped out of her mouth when I pulled her out, so I got lucky. That is a cheap rod at only $50 and I've since done well with walkers on nicer glass composite sticks which I'm sure are still crap compared to some of the high dollar (yen) JDM glass rods I've seen and will likely never have the pleasure of using, so for me carbon is king for those techniques. A fast tip and good progressive taper combine to allow for an actual penetrating hook set and forgiveness to absorb some of the fight, plus it doesn't wear you out as fast as working the bait is much easier.
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