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Disappointed
Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 5:15 pm
by ultraslab
I just upgraded a St. Croix to XLC70MF Legend Elite Extreme after reading the reviews on the legend elite . Went with the extreme thinking I would like the handle better. Tied on a jig today and was NOT impressed. Sensitivity felt mushy and not near as crisp as I was expecting. Granted it was a short day and did not get a bite as lake is tough right now, but i was expecting a wow factor that just wasn't there. Did I make a mistake with this rod? Any feedback appreciated.
Re: Disappointed
Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 5:23 pm
by Hobie-Wan Kenobi
I haven't used that model. I have a couple customs on the Legend Elite blanks. 7ft Lite and 76 Med-Heavy Mod Fast. Both are pretty decent vlanks and I have no problem detecting bites. Tapers are nice too.
Re: Disappointed
Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 8:46 pm
by Revofisher
i really enjoy my elites and the tapers but i will say they are not as sensitive as some other rods in the price range but i have not considered them to be lacking in bite detections
Re: Disappointed
Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2019 4:33 am
by ultraslab
Maybe I have reached a point of diminishing returns in that I have enough high end rods that there is not a wow factor still out there. I have and NRX and Daiwa Steez 76MML- and a Daiwa Steez 71MHXF-AGS which is not much compare to some of you collectors but these would be considered close to flag ship models by there respective companies. I'm always looking for a wow factor but at level maybe it's just not doable. I remember my 1st NRX and 1st cast I was like wow. Either I need a mentor or I've passed the point where a rod may be slightly better than another but not to the point of making you say wow. Now with the 2 legend elite extreme ( bought a casting and spinning ) I'm feeling depressed that 1st cast of a rod that makes you feel like a kid at christmas may be a thing of the past.
Re: Disappointed
Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2019 10:23 am
by Fishing4Fun
What rod are referring to? I don’t see a Legend Elite Extreme?
There is a Legend Elite, a Legend Xtreme, Legened X Series?
Re: Disappointed
Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2019 10:32 am
by goldrod
ultraslab wrote: ↑Wed Dec 25, 2019 4:33 am
Maybe I have reached a point of diminishing returns in that I have enough high end rods that there is not a wow factor still out there. I have and NRX and Daiwa Steez 76MML- and a Daiwa Steez 71MHXF-AGS which is not much compare to some of you collectors but these would be considered close to flag ship models by there respective companies. I'm always looking for a wow factor but at level maybe it's just not doable. I remember my 1st NRX and 1st cast I was like wow. Either I need a mentor or I've passed the point where a rod may be slightly better than another but not to the point of making you say wow. Now with the 2 legend elite extreme ( bought a casting and spinning ) I'm feeling depressed that 1st cast of a rod that makes you feel like a kid at christmas may be a thing of the past.
Oh the point of diminishing returns
Man I read three chapters on that and still got a low grade.
It was sooooo long and sooo many questions on the quiz. When I read your post I had a flash back
Anyways I have the 7’4” Legend Elite heavy and I like it.
It’s been a good rod to me. What are you lacking other than your perceived sensitivity?
Catch a couple dinks on it and than let us know
Re: Disappointed
Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2019 1:52 pm
by Hogsticker2
Subjective, but I've never felt Croix blanks had the lively crisp nature in comparison to other high end blanks. Not dead by any means, but over priced imo if sensitivity is your purpose.
Re: Disappointed
Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2019 3:40 pm
by Hennessy
ultraslab wrote: ↑Wed Dec 25, 2019 4:33 am
Maybe I have reached a point of diminishing returns in that I have enough high end rods that there is not a wow factor still out there. I have and NRX and Daiwa Steez 76MML- and a Daiwa Steez 71MHXF-AGS which is not much compare to some of you collectors but these would be considered close to flag ship models by there respective companies. I'm always looking for a wow factor but at level maybe it's just not doable. I remember my 1st NRX and 1st cast I was like wow. Either I need a mentor or I've passed the point where a rod may be slightly better than another but not to the point of making you say wow. Now with the 2 legend elite extreme ( bought a casting and spinning ) I'm feeling depressed that 1st cast of a rod that makes you feel like a kid at christmas may be a thing of the past.
I been thru similar situations with different rods. And really it’s not a bad thing, not have to worry about what you’re missing out on because the nrx is at the top on feel, sensitivity, lightweight. The casting rods I tried where 2 champion extreme generations, older zbone model, steez ags spinning rod. All were good rods, not the “nrx wow” factor though. One rod I did purchase this year was the new poison adrena. I actually fished it for 8 hours once in a tournament & I was setting the hook on stuff that wasn’t there & this was after fishing nrx rods all year. At that price point, that rod is NICE. A very close favorite to my nrx lineup
Re: Disappointed
Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2019 6:35 pm
by goldrod
Hennessy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 25, 2019 3:40 pm
ultraslab wrote: ↑Wed Dec 25, 2019 4:33 am
Maybe I have reached a point of diminishing returns in that I have enough high end rods that there is not a wow factor still out there. I have and NRX and Daiwa Steez 76MML- and a Daiwa Steez 71MHXF-AGS which is not much compare to some of you collectors but these would be considered close to flag ship models by there respective companies. I'm always looking for a wow factor but at level maybe it's just not doable. I remember my 1st NRX and 1st cast I was like wow. Either I need a mentor or I've passed the point where a rod may be slightly better than another but not to the point of making you say wow. Now with the 2 legend elite extreme ( bought a casting and spinning ) I'm feeling depressed that 1st cast of a rod that makes you feel like a kid at christmas may be a thing of the past.
I been thru similar situations with different rods. And really it’s not a bad thing, not have to worry about what you’re missing out on because the nrx is at the top on feel, sensitivity, lightweight. The casting rods I tried where 2 champion extreme generations, older zbone model, steez ags spinning rod. All were good rods, not the “nrx wow” factor though. One rod I did purchase this year was the new poison adrena. I actually fished it for 8 hours once in a tournament & I was setting the hook on stuff that wasn’t there & this was after fishing nrx rods all year. At that price point, that rod is NICE. A very close favorite to my nrx lineup
Which PA do you have ?
I have the 7’2” and 6’10”
And they are dangerously sensitive. That handle transmits so much that it’s scary when you get bit.
Re: Disappointed
Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2019 7:02 am
by ultraslab
Sorry for the confusion . The 2 new rods are the spinning and casting Legend X Series . Supposed to be same as Legend Elite with different handle. I'll give more feedback as I have a chance to fish them over next week but when I read Zander's review of the legend Elite one of the best reviews I've seen, I guess in my mind I was expecting more. FYI both are 7' M .
Re: Disappointed
Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2019 8:24 am
by HobeyBaker
I think it’s part of the deal with trying to get the best rods that fit your style. I’ve bought and sold a lot of rods trying to find ones that fit my style. A lot have been highly regarded on here such as MB Javelin and 894 NRX.
Re: Disappointed
Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2019 8:51 pm
by Hogsticker2
HobeyBaker wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2019 8:24 am
I think it’s part of the deal with trying to get the best rods that fit your style. I’ve bought and sold a lot of rods trying to find ones that fit my style. A lot have been highly regarded on here such as MB Javelin and 894 NRX.
Totally agree. I also agree with the comments about the 18 Poison Adrena. If most my rods weren't custom, I'd have several models.
Re: Disappointed
Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 11:07 pm
by Obz
I have a 7MH LE and prob wouldn't be my first choice as a jig rod but its very legit for topwater and spinnerbaits. I can also say I've never had a st.croix break in a normal fishing situation. Can't say that for other top dollar chinese made rods.
Re: Disappointed
Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:19 pm
by Chode
ultraslab wrote: ↑Tue Dec 24, 2019 5:15 pm
but i was expecting a wow factor that just wasn't there.
i dunno. i think u did get a wow factor. after using it, you were like WOW this rod blows
