New US Market Poison Ultima

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Re: New US Market Poison Ultima

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raychoi wrote:
Thu Jul 13, 2023 11:17 pm
SSS wrote:
Thu Jul 13, 2023 7:12 pm
#1 How can you charge this much money while not even made in Japan?

#2 How can you sell such an expensive rod with a 1 year warranty?
All posion utlima are made in Japan. It is a 7xxxx yen rod in real street price.
For now. It will drop over time since Japan practices capitalism. USDM will be stuck at full retail.
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Re: New US Market Poison Ultima

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If you can read Japanese, the rod tag clearly state it is made in Japan. I have several 21 Posion Glorious and they are made in Japan. I hope US Posion Ultima has at least 3 year warranty to justify the 250 usd difference. :lol:
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Re: New US Market Poison Ultima

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Anybody know the guide material? I know they originally used torzite but changed to sic due to supply constraints in Japan
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Chode wrote:
Sat Jul 15, 2023 5:06 am
Anybody know the guide material? I know they originally used torzite but changed to sic due to supply constraints in Japan
The casting rods have a torzite guide train with a Shimano tip.

The spinning rods are supposed to have some proprietary Shimano Titanium guides with some super hard insert...

Basically they aren't the same
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Re: New US Market Poison Ultima

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yay, i've got space on the rack for another ulitma :D

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Re: New US Market Poison Ultima

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lzeil wrote:
Sat Jul 15, 2023 11:25 pm
yay, i've got space on the rack for another ulitma :D

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What model is that older Steez in the middle, back row?
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Re: New US Market Poison Ultima

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Is that a compile-x skyray? I have the power plus model and like it a lot as a little finesse dock skipper. Sensitivity is just OK but I am mostly skipping, waiting and feeling for weight or monitoring my line so it works for me.
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Re: New US Market Poison Ultima

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I own the whole JDM PU series, 1 difference I see when comparing with US PU series is that JDM ones have removable handle, they normally have that for PU and PG for all models =>7ft. Also the new spinning models are not available for JDM.
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Re: New US Market Poison Ultima

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LowRange wrote:
Tue Aug 01, 2023 4:04 pm
Is that a compile-x skyray? I have the power plus model and like it a lot as a little finesse dock skipper. Sensitivity is just OK but I am mostly skipping, waiting and feeling for weight or monitoring my line so it works for me.
yep, a comp-x skyray
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Re: New US Market Poison Ultima

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so, are these new rods now priced higher than the Flagship Shimano/Loomis Conquest rods??
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Re: New US Market Poison Ultima

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Yes, CNQ max out at $800 and these are $879.99
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Re: New US Market Poison Ultima

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$879.99, seems on par (+/- a few bucks) on what i would expect to pay importing a new ulitma from japan (rod+packaging+shipping+insurance+import fees...etc).
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Re: New US Market Poison Ultima

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Are there Hook keepers on these rods? Just curious, I will never be able to afford one lol
879 US is almost $1200 Canadian lol
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Re: New US Market Poison Ultima

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lzeil wrote:
Sun Aug 06, 2023 1:20 am
$879.99, seems on par (+/- a few bucks) on what i would expect to pay importing a new ulitma from japan (rod+packaging+shipping+insurance+import fees...etc).
Hmm. I just checked and I paid 94,418 yen for my Poison Ultima. That’s $666 at today’s exchange rate, and might even have been a bit cheaper back then. Includes shipping, didn’t have to pay import fees.
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Re: New US Market Poison Ultima

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Hulkster wrote:
Sun Aug 06, 2023 3:11 pm
Are there Hook keepers on these rods? Just curious, I will never be able to afford one lol
879 US is almost $1200 Canadian lol
There aren’t any on the JDM ones. But these days I’m actually happy to add a Fuji or Daiwa keeper after the fact. More options, easy to personalize.
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