ScoobyDoo wrote:FKA Incognito wrote:ScoobyDoo wrote:What makes the z so special that its the same price as a Tiagra 50 wide long range special????
I mean that 3d brake system is nothing special. Its not made of some rare material from an asteroid or something....so what's so special???
Well, I suppose you could say the same of DC technology which, unless I'm mistaken, is based on electromagnetism and silicone chips. Given that 3D is new and supposed to achieve similar versatility as DC braking...
I have to disagree. And I also want to clarify my original comment in regards to the material its made from. As I was directing that to its frame material being aluminum.
The part that I disagree with is The dc brake functions differently than any of the other three types. As there is no braking at all in the beginning of the cast. Which is why it performs so well hitting better distance numbers. And at the same time is more accurate at mid to long range as there no swing on sidearm casts. Which with the others you will get a left to right fade. But the dc can get squirrely up close as you are in pretty much freespool.
If all this 3 d setting does is move the magnets closer at 3 preset distances. And then let you fine tune it from there it's a complete waste of money. At least if thats what the price jump is for.
Perfect example. I knobby magged a Avet. In free spool the spool is closer to the mags so I can adjust it and have a higher top end and low end of braking. Bump the lever drag to bait and the spool pulls slightly to the handle side. Now both the high and low setting are drastically reduced and can throw even further. Sounds like to me this is all they have done. Which unless you don't know how to cast a revolving spool reel is completely unnecessary. As with any mag v and z reel the highest mag setting is a breeze to throw in even the nastiest of headwinds. And the lightest is all off. Not sure what the need is for a fine tuning of the braking adjustment other than marketing??!!
Before posting about the 3D braking system, you need to understand the hole concept of the Mag-V/Z.
Look here:
http://www.japantackle.com/Topics/brake_system.htm read twice.
After, if you still have questions about Mag-V/Z and Mag 3D I will be here to answer.
After reading the info on the link, the following statement will look a Cliché: "The dc brake functions differently than any of the other three types. As there is no braking at all in the beginning of the cast."
Daiwa braking mechanisms have been doing this for so long that everyone by now takes it for granted.
There is nothing new of the DC brakes except that they use electronics. More, it seems that they are still far from perfection as you mentioned.
Concerning the price, probably it cost 5$ to make the hole brake system but the price of the design, technology and performance is much higher. Its the same for the DC.
The Z200 reels are not made of Zaion. There was a typo in Hi's Tackle Box's listing. They are spec'd at 9.9 oz.STEEZMAN2 wrote:Cal did not chime in on the Zaion question?
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. I was getting excited for a moment 
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Toku's custom rod for his Pixy wouldn't be too bad... 
