What's up with Daiwa's website specs?

[aditud]

Just sent this to Daiwa. I'm curious if they'll reply. Won't hold my breath.

Hello,
I am writing this e-mail to make you aware that the specifications you have on some spinning reels that you sell in the USA are way off on your website compared to the actual weight (measured by us, the consumers, and inscribed by you on the retail box).

For example, I bought an Aird 2500sh online a while ago: your USA website gives 8.8oz, the actual weight is 9.2oz (it even says so on the box). I read that other consumers who bought the Ballistic online had a truly unpleasant surprise (+12oz instead of +10oz, an almost 2oz difference).

Just the other day I was about to purchase a Procyon 2000sh online; its advertised 7.6oz weight is ideal for my Light action rod I was going to purchase the reel for. However, as I checked the actual box at a retailer I had the unpleasant surprise to see that the actual weight of the reel is 8.5oz. Considering Light applications, the difference is significant, and as a consequence I will NOT purchase the reel. I used to own an Exceler 2000 which was a great reel, but too heavy for a nice Light action rod. I am now disappointed to find out that, in spite of your website specifications, new higher-end models such as Procyon, Ballistic are just as heavy as the old Exceler.

I used to be a Daiwa fan (have had at least 7 Daiwa spinning reels), but this disturbing practice of grossly understating the actual reel weights on your website is completely off-putting. I am getting the same feedback from many disappointed consumers.

Thank you for your attention to this matter,
A.

[Bronzeye]

Thanks for taking the time to make them face facts. Have you considered forwarding it to BPS, Cabelas. etc.? They will probably be putting together next year's catalogs soon, and should know about the discrepancies.

[21farms]

interesting. i used to weigh all my rods and reels as soon as i got them. but, about three years ago, i stopped weighing reels altogether because i had only found one that weighed different than the published specs. interestingly, that one reel was a daiwa. unfortunately, i cannot remember now whether my zillion CC weighed more or less than the published 8.8 ounces. i just weighed it again and it currently weighs 8.3 ounces but it now has a TDZ 100m spool filled with 50# sufix 832 and 95mm carbon handle with foam knobs and so the weight isn't comparable.

[aditud]

Check out post #16 on this thread. It's about the gross discrepancy on the Ballistic:

http://www.stripersonline.com/t/814397/ ... -sealed/15

Unbelievable!

In all fairness, I've been confronted with one (and one only) instance where the website advertised a heavier reel than in reality. It's the Fuego 1000A, at 7oz on the website when it actually says 6.5oz on the box. I weighed it myself and got closer to 6.4oz (by the way, the aluminum spool weighs 1.3oz by itself, so with a custom, graphite spool, this great little reel could have been made under 6oz).

But, it seems pretty clear by now that the general practice is to understate rather than overstate the weight on the website.

[aditud]

Is anyone surprised I didn't get anything from Daiwa? Maybe they're busy weighing their reels ...

[africanbass]

One day they will actually realize somebody is watching
On a positive note,the Tatula is proof that somebody IS listening!

[dragon1]

Daiwa's website has always been inaccurate...as are most other manufacturers'. I doubt they pay an "internet marketing specialist" any sort of top dollar to keep it updated.

[aditud]

Daiwa's website has always been inaccurate...as are most other manufacturers'. I doubt they pay an "internet marketing specialist" any sort of top dollar to keep it updated.

This is not to be taken lightly, however. It's not as if the Internet age is knocking on our door, it's been here for a while already. I, as many people nowadays, do most of my shopping online, so it's not always that I get to see what's written on the retail box before I buy some reel. In most cases, I actually play with the reel a bit in a retail store before making my decision to order it online. But I've never paid attention to what's on the box (always thought I'd done my homework online). And a 1oz difference might not be so apparent while holding the reel in the store, but I know my arm can tell the difference between fishing streamside a 7.6oz reel on a Light rod for 5+ hours, and doing the same with an 8.5oz reel.

[aditud]

looks like we have a new case, the Lexa:

http://forums.tackletour.com/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=51047

An over 1oz difference for a 2000 size spinning reel. This is just pathetic!

[tywithay]

I have a Fuego 1000A so I guess I'm glad it's wrong? Lol

[QUAKEnSHAKE]

I notice this with the rod Megabass 611xxs review TT did. The MB spec for the rod is 4.1oz and TT weighed it at 5.3oz thats like 30% off on the weight.

[dragon1]

Weight disparity is one thing...misprint on features that can affect a reel in an enviroment like SW is, well...

[aditud]

The sad thing is that Daiwa's not making any under $300 reels comparable in weight to the discontinued Fuego. Take for example the Fuego 1500/2000a (same reel, different spool size); if we're talking the US market, you'd have to get a Procyon or Ballistic instead. But we're learning the 1500/2000 models weigh at least 8.5oz, compared to Fuego's 7oz.

What's going on here? Are they just going cheap (the more expensive of the two, the Ballistic retails just under $200, still a lot cheaper than the Fuego), so now they're just coating aluminum with Zaion carbon, instead of the going all Zaion? Even on the Japanese market, the Caldia is significantly heavier than the Fuego if you compare models with comparable line rating.

I'm bummed. Been wanting a cool looking Daiwa (with the new air rotor) 1500/2000 size holding at least 100m of 6lb test line, and not exceeding 7.5oz. Nowhere to find something like that.

[PittsBoy]

That's easy --> Luvias 2004
(not as much line capacity but plenty enough)

[aditud]

Looks to me rather 2506/2506h if you want it to hold as much line as the Fuego 1500a. But, seriously, how much is it to get one from Japan (including customs)? Probably close to $400? And where do you get service/parts for it if something goes wrong?