Straight up long distance

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Re: Straight up long distance

Post by thelatrobe33 » Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:34 pm

Daiwa Zillion HLC. It's more than just a clever name :lol:

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Re: Straight up long distance

Post by Hogsticker2 » Fri Jul 26, 2013 1:06 am

Should I be surprised to not see any T3 comments as of yet?

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Re: Straight up long distance

Post by BRbasser » Fri Jul 26, 2013 2:33 am

Maybe that might be a good experiment for me this weekend. I need to make sure I have enough braid to load all the reels.

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Re: Straight up long distance

Post by dragon1 » Fri Jul 26, 2013 2:36 am

Hogsticker2 wrote:Should I be surprised to not see any T3 comments as of yet?
Video on page 3 http://forums.tackletour.com/viewtopic. ... 9&start=30

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Re: Straight up long distance

Post by mark poulson » Sat Jul 27, 2013 12:36 am

dragon1 wrote:
Hogsticker2 wrote:Should I be surprised to not see any T3 comments as of yet?
Video on page 3 http://forums.tackletour.com/viewtopic. ... 9&start=30
That is impressive. What's the capacity of that spool?

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Re: Straight up long distance

Post by Hogsticker2 » Sat Jul 27, 2013 2:48 am

mark poulson wrote:
dragon1 wrote:
Hogsticker2 wrote:Should I be surprised to not see any T3 comments as of yet?
Video on page 3 http://forums.tackletour.com/viewtopic. ... 9&start=30
That is impressive. What's the capacity of that spool?
0.330 / 80 yards

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Re: Straight up long distance

Post by Native » Sat Jul 27, 2013 4:48 am

Calais 200DC, 200TE DC and Z200

That comment about DC's being good choices for the handicapped is right on the money. I have severe back problems that limit my mobility and have tried to buy equipment that works with my limitations. These three are scary long casters but have been fortunate that my Steez 103HA, and Zillion Type R both come very close also.

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Re: Straight up long distance

Post by basser100 » Sat Jul 27, 2013 11:04 am

I have a z2020 with zpi sic bearings running dry. My t3 ballistic with zpi sic bearings also running dry will out distance it every time by about 5 yards. ZPi sic bearings are very quiet even when running them dry.

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Re: Straight up long distance

Post by tywithay » Sat Jul 27, 2013 11:57 am

basser100 wrote:I have a z2020 with zpi sic bearings running dry. My t3 ballistic with zpi sic bearings also running dry will out distance it every time by about 5 yards. ZPi sic bearings are very quiet even when running them dry.
I might have to try bearing upgrades in my Z2020 and T31016. As it stands now, my Z2020 outcasts everything I have except my Stradic 4000FJ on a 10' Surf rod (not fair because the rods longer by 2.5ft). I have 19lb Defier on my Z and have spooled it a few times with a 1oz sinker practice casting.

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Re: Straight up long distance

Post by Gone Phishin » Sat Jul 27, 2013 1:19 pm

Native wrote:Calais 200DC, 200TE DC and Z200

That comment about DC's being good choices for the handicapped is right on the money. I have severe back problems that limit my mobility and have tried to buy equipment that works with my limitations. These three are scary long casters but have been fortunate that my Steez 103HA, and Zillion Type R both come very close also.

Sorry to hear that buddy. I had reconstructive spinal surgery in '09, and I have severe limited mobility as well. I do most of my fishing off of our dock, so distance is what I am looking for most of my casts. The DC has been a revelation.

I am currently saving for a Calais 201DC. I had the Calcutta 201DC on my 1/2oz spinnerbait stick, but it has since moved to a X4 Destruction. I am currently using a Conquest 101 for blades until I can swing the Calais DC.

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Re: Straight up long distance

Post by bassninja » Mon Jul 29, 2013 7:24 am

Scorpion 1001XT for me. I dang near casted off almost all of my line once using a Yo Zuri Rattln' Vibe, DX703C and 30lb Sufix Performance braid. Of course the 10-15MPH wind from my back helped too. 8-)

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Re: Straight up long distance

Post by RWSCHMITZ » Mon Jul 29, 2013 1:16 pm

Carlos Carrapiço wrote:Daiwa Zillion 100SH with a HLC spool paired with the EverGreen SkyScraper TMJC 711M gets me 60 meter with a 1/2 oz lipless.
60meters is 196 feet = 65yds ?????????????? [-( [-( [-(

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Re: Straight up long distance

Post by Native » Mon Jul 29, 2013 3:19 pm

RWSCHMITZ wrote:
Carlos Carrapiço wrote:Daiwa Zillion 100SH with a HLC spool paired with the EverGreen SkyScraper TMJC 711M gets me 60 meter with a 1/2 oz lipless.
60meters is 196 feet = 65yds ?????????????? [-( [-( [-(
Doesn't surprise me. The HLC spool is designed for baits 1/2 oz. and better. The spool is 30% lighter and designed to go 30% farther. The rod he's using is 7'11". From my experience the longer the rod the longer the cast. Even with an average lubricant in his bearings he's still got the deck stacked in his favor for a much better than average cast.

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Re: Straight up long distance

Post by Hogsticker2 » Mon Jul 29, 2013 4:06 pm

Native wrote:
RWSCHMITZ wrote:
Carlos Carrapiço wrote:Daiwa Zillion 100SH with a HLC spool paired with the EverGreen SkyScraper TMJC 711M gets me 60 meter with a 1/2 oz lipless.
60meters is 196 feet = 65yds ?????????????? [-( [-( [-(
Doesn't surprise me. The HLC spool is designed for baits 1/2 oz. and better. The spool is 30% lighter and designed to go 30% farther. The rod he's using is 7'11". From my experience the longer the rod the longer the cast. Even with an average lubricant in his bearings he's still got the deck stacked in his favor for a much better than average cast.
Doesn't surprise me either. I have a tuned Fuego with a TDZ spool I can launch a 1/2 oz. lipless 55 yards on a moderate fast Kistler KLX.

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Re: Straight up long distance

Post by Carlos Carrapiço » Mon Jul 29, 2013 7:53 pm

Hogsticker2 wrote:
Native wrote:
RWSCHMITZ wrote:
Carlos Carrapiço wrote:Daiwa Zillion 100SH with a HLC spool paired with the EverGreen SkyScraper TMJC 711M gets me 60 meter with a 1/2 oz lipless.
60meters is 196 feet = 65yds ?????????????? [-( [-( [-(
Doesn't surprise me. The HLC spool is designed for baits 1/2 oz. and better. The spool is 30% lighter and designed to go 30% farther. The rod he's using is 7'11". From my experience the longer the rod the longer the cast. Even with an average lubricant in his bearings he's still got the deck stacked in his favor for a much better than average cast.
Doesn't surprise me either. I have a tuned Fuego with a TDZ spool I can launch a 1/2 oz. lipless 55 yards on a moderate fast Kistler KLX.
Just to add that I was using Sunline Shooter Defier 15lb and the crank is EverGreen Whizzer 16.5g.
No wind to help or spoil your cast.

The distance was calculated based on the fact that I had 75 meters of line on the reel plus baking and I was seeing the baking in every cast. So this means that I have around 5 or less meters in the spool and a give 10 meters to compensate for the curved trajectory in the air done by the lure as the effective distance is in straight line.

The reel settings were the following:

Tension knob set to the point where the lure falls slowly and the spool stops when it touches the ground.

Mag Z set between 3.5 or 4.

Curiously, the only fish I caught (5lb) was on a fairly short cast (~25 meter). :-k

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