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Reel Fast

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 12:35 pm
by goldrod
Just like the Fast and the Furious, our obsession for speed in fishing seems to be one sequel after another. Before I left I brought me a set of gears for my zillion that was 7.3:1 I wanted the 7.9:1. I wont be home for six months so that will have to do.

My question to you is how fast do you really want to go?
Where do we set the speed cutout at? Will tournaments be limited in the gear ratio? Something like nascar ( the little I know about it), every car has the same engine size and is limited by governors on the engine.

What are your thought?
I saw that red clutch reel for sale and I saw the IS79 and can't understand what you get in one you dont have in the other??? but Still they have 7.9:1 gears. Someone will come up with an 8.4:1 soon enough.

Re: Reel Fast

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 1:19 pm
by baoxlaox81
8.4:1?...... abu just released the revo rocket in a 9.0:1, burning in 37" per crank

Re: Reel Fast

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 4:47 am
by bigreddog
Sure, they'll come out with something faster with more inches per turn. \:D/

But then you'll have to add a longer handle to maintain power. :-k

But a longer handle means your hand travels in a bigger circle to complete a turn, so your crank speed drops... ](*,)

I think the real way to optimize is to focus on the angler: What handle length is ergonomically most efficient for you, given your biomechanical make-up and all the effort you've devoted to training yourself to turn a crank. Based on this, choose an appropriate gear ratio that balances your need for speed and power, based on the technique.

It's literally like riding a bicycle. You have one crank length, but you choose your gear based on what you need at the time.

Re: Reel Fast

Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 6:37 am
by goldrod
to what end, how fast is enough

Re: Reel Fast

Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 3:07 pm
by dragon1
goldrod wrote:to what end, how fast is enough
It's marketing "one-upsmanship"...what is actually tangible on the water in so far as a true performance gain or advantage after a certain IPT, is probably not as applicable as many would like to think.

Otherwise ultra-high gear ratios are a marketing tool after a certain point of the mid-high 7s:1, IPT is where it really matters IMO. If the user really wants a high IPT, most bigger spool spinning reels in the 6.sumpfin:1 gear ratios will literally blow away most BCs.

Re: Reel Fast

Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 9:45 pm
by cndbasshunter
I much prefer a more versatile ratio than the fastest. Gimme a 6.3:1 and I can use it for anything!!

Re: Reel Fast

Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 1:44 pm
by smalliesteve
cndbasshunter wrote:I much prefer a more versatile ratio than the fastest. Gimme a 6.3:1 and I can use it for anything!!
couldn't agree more.

I've got one 7.1 (31 IPT) reel and it's definitely as high as I will use. Might buy another one in the future, but only after I've picked up several more mid/low 6's

Re: Reel Fast

Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 2:20 pm
by BucketHunter
It's a free market. Innovate a product, let the consumer decide if it's valid.
The last thing I need is someone else telling me I don't need something else.

Re: Reel Fast

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 10:15 am
by smalliesteve
I think the last thing I need is someone telling me I do need something else. :lol: :lol:

Re: Reel Fast

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 12:58 am
by BucketHunter
Yes I suppose in our weaker moments, that can be an issue as well.
There is a old European guy that comes into my grocery store and always regales me with tales of living under communism. How you would go THE store, and ask for THE potatoes, THE chocolate, THE beer, because the government has already decided what you do, and don't need.
Along with that was supposed to be the right to have a say in what was procured and sold, since the people were the government. In his words, "and look how that worked out".

Re: Reel Fast

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 6:21 am
by basskeeter1
smalliesteve wrote:I think the last thing I need is someone telling me I do need something else. :lol: :lol:

That's good! Well said.

Re: Reel Fast

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 11:18 am
by smalliesteve
I think this might be some consumers saying the product's not valid.

I also didn't hear anyone suggest that gear ratios should be regulated. :lol:

Re: Reel Fast

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 12:10 pm
by romans
In my opinion,we are already fast enough. The 7:1 ratio is plenty fast for me.

Re: Reel Fast

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 5:54 pm
by DBOULAIS
Ok, just shoot me now for saying this. I want electric winch retrieval. I'm old enough that my wrists do not like the repetitive motion and I have little grip strength left. Give me a spring loaded lever on the side of the reel to control retrieval speed.

Re: Reel Fast

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 3:40 am
by hobobob
BucketHunter wrote:Yes I suppose in our weaker moments, that can be an issue as well.
There is a old European guy that comes into my grocery store and always regales me with tales of living under communism. How you would go THE store, and ask for THE potatoes, THE chocolate, THE beer, because the government has already decided what you do, and don't need.
Along with that was supposed to be the right to have a say in what was procured and sold, since the people were the government. In his words, "and look how that worked out".
You crack me up Buck :lol: That reminded me of the soup nazi in Seinfeld. But don't you ever wonder that choice is merely an illusion? You just have a bigger selection, a bigger THE store?