Yes! Pro tournament fishing is a business and Pure Fishing spends ALOT of money on advertising and sponsorships. It doesn't mean their reels are better or worse, they just have much more exposure. I personally think 13 Fishing earned the award in the reel category and they most definitely read the forums here.Pen3 wrote:Aren't they just using them because they're sponsored? Wouldn't Ike and others use Daiwa and Shimano if they sponsored them instead? The only Abu I would consider are LTZ and KTF varients, but these are fisherman tuned not Abu tuned.runmax08 wrote:The award is important and it shows that Abu Garcia has or have become a major player in the low profile reel department.
Listen to the fisherman who use their products! Currently there are more pros using their products than any other manufacturer.
Revo Beast takes Best Freshwater Reel Icast 2014
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And there are more fishermen using Zebco 33's than any baitcast reel. Doesn't make the Zebco 33 a better reel.runmax08 wrote:The award is important and it shows that Abu Garcia has or have become a major player in the low profile reel department.
Listen to the fisherman who use their products! Currently there are more pros using their products than any other manufacturer.
As has been pointed out elsewhere, most pros use the products of whichever company pays them the most money. I put zero stock in what a pro says about any reel.
Abu Garcia is slipping. Lew's knocked them for a loop when they entered the market and took a huge bite out of Abu's share; Daiwa and Shimano in the last few years have both majorly upped the ante with the Tatula and the Curado I, and now 13 Fishing is the newest upstart gaining ground rapidly. Not to become too much of a conspiracy theorist, but Abu needed to win the "Best In Show" award this year.
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Look beyond the States. Daiwa, Shimano and Abu are global players. 13 Fishing and Lew's aren't even close. Quantum is leaps and bounds beyond them. Okuma is beyond them. Now, if people are fishing into the 22nd century, they may make it onto the porch with the big dogs. Until then, they'll have to be content playin' in the yard with the other pups.Fishwhittler wrote:And there are more fishermen using Zebco 33's than any baitcast reel. Doesn't make the Zebco 33 a better reel.runmax08 wrote:The award is important and it shows that Abu Garcia has or have become a major player in the low profile reel department.
Listen to the fisherman who use their products! Currently there are more pros using their products than any other manufacturer.
As has been pointed out elsewhere, most pros use the products of whichever company pays them the most money. I put zero stock in what a pro says about any reel.
Abu Garcia is slipping. Lew's knocked them for a loop when they entered the market and took a huge bite out of Abu's share; Daiwa and Shimano in the last few years have both majorly upped the ante with the Tatula and the Curado I, and now 13 Fishing is the newest upstart gaining ground rapidly. Not to become too much of a conspiracy theorist, but Abu needed to win the "Best In Show" award this year.
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Corp. annual sales figures of the fishing industry would be an interesting read
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The MGX won the award a couple of years ago. They are already major players.Fishwhittler wrote:And there are more fishermen using Zebco 33's than any baitcast reel. Doesn't make the Zebco 33 a better reel.runmax08 wrote:The award is important and it shows that Abu Garcia has or have become a major player in the low profile reel department.
Listen to the fisherman who use their products! Currently there are more pros using their products than any other manufacturer.
As has been pointed out elsewhere, most pros use the products of whichever company pays them the most money. I put zero stock in what a pro says about any reel.
Abu Garcia is slipping. Lew's knocked them for a loop when they entered the market and took a huge bite out of Abu's share; Daiwa and Shimano in the last few years have both majorly upped the ante with the Tatula and the Curado I, and now 13 Fishing is the newest upstart gaining ground rapidly. Not to become too much of a conspiracy theorist, but Abu needed to win the "Best In Show" award this year.
13 fishing reels maybe popular on internet forums but that doesn't necessarily mean sales success yet.
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My thoughts as well, lots and lots of hype, especially now with the "Trick Shop"....but I'll need more then a trick shop to convince me, and for that matter, it might take a year or two.Bootytrain wrote: 13 fishing reels maybe popular on internet forums but that doesn't necessarily mean sales success yet.
Question is, if you had only one reel to buy (not insinuating it's a bad reel) would it be a 13 Fishing reel?
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Is that what the best freshwater reel 2014 award is about though? How do you win the award with a brand new product just released at Icast then since it would have no sales figures? The award is about innovation, technology, aesthetics, etc, not sales figures.389Maverick wrote:My thoughts as well, lots and lots of hype, especially now with the "Trick Shop"....but I'll need more then a trick shop to convince me, and for that matter, it might take a year or two.Bootytrain wrote: 13 fishing reels maybe popular on internet forums but that doesn't necessarily mean sales success yet.
Question is, if you had only one reel to buy (not insinuating it's a bad reel) would it be a 13 Fishing reel?
The beast is kind of a lame rehash of the Toro, although I would be willing to bet the Toro would wipe the floor with it. Cry fanboy all you want, I own a Record 61HC, Toro 61 custom tuned/painted, and a Revo SXL. I like my Abu's, but I love my Daiwas.
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JA, my comment was toward Icast in general, not toward any specific brands. The show simply don't any sense to me. Don't get me started on the timing for us northerners.Johnny A wrote: Yet when Shimano was taking it year after year, there was proud as papa chest puffery to go around. Fanboys are fanboys.
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ICast is simply a Manufacturers Tournament and whomever can generate the most hype wins.
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Question is why Beast, why Concept, why speed spools?389Maverick wrote:My thoughts as well, lots and lots of hype, especially now with the "Trick Shop"....but I'll need more then a trick shop to convince me, and for that matter, it might take a year or two.Bootytrain wrote: 13 fishing reels maybe popular on internet forums but that doesn't necessarily mean sales success yet.
Question is, if you had only one reel to buy (not insinuating it's a bad reel) would it be a 13 Fishing reel?
Daiwa and Shimano have released reels with more innovations, capabilities at a great performance to dollar price ratio recently.
I thought "best" means the most performance for your money. The beast is just a large frame Revo reference with a different combination of parts. Concepts are pretty much one reel with a variety of materials and parts. As are most Lew's, pflueger...etc.
To me adding a line here and there or re shaping the front plastic levelwind shield or even shaping a handle is not design and engineering, not when competitors attempt to introduce new levelwind systems, cast braking systems and make discernible attempts to reduce drivetrain loss.
Doyo and Banax can jumble their components to not end and keep renaming these reels as different models but I think either the conquest, the Curado I should have been the winner.
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hobobob wrote:JA, my comment was toward Icast in general, not toward any specific brands. The show simply don't any sense to me. Don't get me started on the timing for us northerners.Johnny A wrote: Yet when Shimano was taking it year after year, there was proud as papa chest puffery to go around. Fanboys are fanboys.
I was sort of bustin' on the whole thing, actually. Do "men" ever outgrow the "my dad can beat your dad" mentality? One of the reasons we are here is we all push the envelope, tacklewise and techniquewise. Keeps us off the street and out of the pool halls.
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too bad these guys aren't considered...
http://www.karil.co.jp/online_shop/sys/ ... -COMP-L-LB 134g, Bait Finesse Aldebaran, 6.2g spool, no kidding.
http://www.karil.co.jp/online_shop/sys/ ... -COMP-L-LB 134g, Bait Finesse Aldebaran, 6.2g spool, no kidding.
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THIS ^^^^^^ "MOST GENERALLY"StarTzar wrote:ICast is simply a Manufacturers Tournament and whomever can generate the most hype wins.
Whichever company can dupe the mass majority of dim-wits, essentially. It never ceases to amuse and amaze me, how many of the "pro endorsers" and "product specialists" misrepresent what certain engineering designs on their rods/reels are actually meant to provide as a benefit.
A fool and his/her money is soon separated....