What's REALLY next for Daiwa

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Re: What's REALLY next for Daiwa

Post by DirtyD64 » Sat Jan 05, 2019 7:44 am

Hogsticker2 wrote:
joekaz wrote:Daiwa Japan website lists that all new Steez CT reels have 80mm handles. :(
No surprise there
Must be a pretty small reel then, to me the videos had me thinking it was for sure a 90mm from now on. I guess they think if someone can spend that much on a reel then they don't mind to upgrade the handle too. I wish Shimano would do away with the 84mm and Daiwa would drop the 80mm for good. I assume they stay because of the JDM market's wishes???

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Re: What's REALLY next for Daiwa

Post by Houndfish » Sat Jan 05, 2019 8:53 am

DirtyD64 wrote: I assume they stay because of the JDM market's wishes???
I suspect it’s so they can advertise a lower reel weight.

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Post by Finnz922 » Sat Jan 05, 2019 9:44 am

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DirtyD64 wrote: I assume they stay because of the JDM market's wishes???
I suspect it’s so they can advertise a lower reel weight.
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Re: What's REALLY next for Daiwa

Post by poisonokie » Sat Jan 05, 2019 10:53 am

80mm handles have their advantages. You can reel faster, for one. I like them for finesse stuff.
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Re: What's REALLY next for Daiwa

Post by DirtyD64 » Sat Jan 05, 2019 12:36 pm

Finnz922 wrote:=D>
Houndfish wrote:
DirtyD64 wrote: I assume they stay because of the JDM market's wishes???
I suspect it’s so they can advertise a lower reel weight.
Never made that connection. I think the Revo MGX and MGXtreme reels have small handles too, they like the "lightest on market" claim too.

How about a handle that is 40mm on one side (fast reeling) and 50mm on the other side (more torque) could counter balance so they work fine. Just a joke, that would look awful.

I do like the BFS handles though where there is just one arm on the handle.

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Re: What's REALLY next for Daiwa

Post by LgMouthGambler » Sun Jan 06, 2019 2:05 am

DirtyD64 wrote:
Finnz922 wrote:=D>
Houndfish wrote:
DirtyD64 wrote: I assume they stay because of the JDM market's wishes???
I suspect it’s so they can advertise a lower reel weight.
Never made that connection. I think the Revo MGX and MGXtreme reels have small handles too, they like the "lightest on market" claim too.

How about a handle that is 40mm on one side (fast reeling) and 50mm on the other side (more torque) could counter balance so they work fine. Just a joke, that would look awful.

I do like the BFS handles though where there is just one arm on the handle.
There used to be reels out there that had 2 different length handle arms on one handle.
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Re: What's REALLY next for Daiwa

Post by DirtyD64 » Sun Jan 06, 2019 2:07 am

LgMouthGambler wrote:
DirtyD64 wrote:
Finnz922 wrote:=D>
Houndfish wrote:
DirtyD64 wrote: I assume they stay because of the JDM market's wishes???
I suspect it’s so they can advertise a lower reel weight.
Never made that connection. I think the Revo MGX and MGXtreme reels have small handles too, they like the "lightest on market" claim too.

How about a handle that is 40mm on one side (fast reeling) and 50mm on the other side (more torque) could counter balance so they work fine. Just a joke, that would look awful.

I do like the BFS handles though where there is just one arm on the handle.
There used to be reels out there that had 2 different length handle arms on one handle.
No way. I really thought that was just a wild thought passing through my head. I understand there are plenty of inshore/musky/HD reels with the single counter balanced handle or a single handle, but not one with similar knobs and different arm lengths.

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Post by Dalleinf » Sun Jan 06, 2019 2:29 am

poisonokie wrote:80mm handles have their advantages. You can reel faster, for one. I like them for finesse stuff.
I agree. I like long handles (90-100mm+) for fishing with big baits that move a lot of water, e.g. spinnerbaits for pike/musky, but for more finesse presentations I like smaller handles. Smaller handles suit the smaller reels (and rods).

I can still catch big fish using small handles - I use the rod to horse the fish in and just pick up line with the reel.

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Re: What's REALLY next for Daiwa

Post by Hogsticker2 » Sun Jan 06, 2019 2:37 pm

80 is just a tad too short imo. Get the occasional knuckle bump. I'm okay with 85 though. I'm assuming the folks in Japan prefer shorter handles, and is more likely the case for Daiwa to continue with them vs weight negligible weight savings.

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Re: What's REALLY next for Daiwa

Post by poisonokie » Sun Jan 06, 2019 3:56 pm

That's true about the occasional knuckle bump. I still like them, though. They just feel smoother and more natural for more delicate presentations. I have a few with 100mm handles, and they're great too, but they're all on power fishing setups for flipping, frogs, deep cranks, and big baits.
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Re: What's REALLY next for Daiwa

Post by timinmo » Wed Jan 09, 2019 7:22 am

Well who wants a $700 Steez? Just saying.

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Re: What's REALLY next for Daiwa

Post by Finnz922 » Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:53 am

timinmo wrote:Well who wants a $700 Steez? Just saying.

I'm assuming you're being sarcastic... I mean. This is TackleTour. ;)
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Re: What's REALLY next for Daiwa

Post by jvelth74 » Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:25 am

timinmo wrote:Well who wants a $700 Steez? Just saying.
Probably just a few fisherman. But still I'm pretty sure of that a lot of people will buy it anyway. :D

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Re: What's REALLY next for Daiwa

Post by Teal101 » Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:35 am

DirtyD64 wrote:
Hogsticker2 wrote:
joekaz wrote:Daiwa Japan website lists that all new Steez CT reels have 80mm handles. :(
No surprise there
Must be a pretty small reel then, to me the videos had me thinking it was for sure a 90mm from now on. I guess they think if someone can spend that much on a reel then they don't mind to upgrade the handle too. I wish Shimano would do away with the 84mm and Daiwa would drop the 80mm for good. I assume they stay because of the JDM market's wishes???
I use 80mm on the majority of my bottom contact stuff, can wind it around faster than the 90mm. That being said, my knuckles are well scarred from the occasional bump.
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Re: What's REALLY next for Daiwa

Post by timinmo » Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:44 pm

I am not.

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