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Interesting. New Daiwa Morethan coming up. Seems to have a 34mm spool and Magforce Z.
http://www.daiwa.com/jp/fishing/item/re ... index.html

Uh oh, looks like this is the new "Zillion" everyone has been asking for. Both sideplates are aluminum, not just the frame. Looks like a Steez A frame, too. Our friends from down under will like this one for sea-run Barra, I think.

Nice. All aluminum frame and side plates based on the Steez A and 7.2 oz. Probably had aluminum gears though. If they are brass gears I'm sold. One would look sharp on a 17 destroyer.

No more than "usability in the bait reel for sea bass realized.
Compact, tough, cast elongation, widely correspond from boil to boat.
Received a high reputation as a dedicated bite reel for Chivas morethan PE. Besides the body, both sides have also been aluminized to achieve extremely high rigidity. By vigorously and steadily rolling up, not only can clearly notify the change of the flow to the hand, as well as the lure which pulls heavily can also be retrieved lightly, and draws a big guy. A compact body that is easy to palm and a 100 mm long handle that supports powerful winding make the rigidity even more realistic. Even in braking, from the setting of protection that does not backlash by PE, it flew to the limit, changed to the setting of attack which will extend in the second half. There is no gap in its potential from long-distance vibrating iron plate to pin spot cast such as minnow.

It is already on Digitaka, but not in stock yet.

It looks like it says Hyper Duragear on the side and given the overall weight I'm thinking the gears must be brass.

MY wife is gonna kill me.

The alloy gears in the Steez A are tough and super smooth, even after many big fish, and I'm a fan of brass gears.

Brass gears make sense, being the only other difference from the Steez A is a faster level wind and some carbon inlay. Or am I missing something?

LgMouthGambler wrote:MY wife is gonna kill me.

Ditto!

poisonokie wrote:It looks like it says Hyper Duragear on the side and given the overall weight I'm thinking the gears must be brass.

Come on plat do another sale like the summer one with this reel in it at some point.

Hogsticker2 wrote:Brass gears make sense, being the only other difference from the Steez A is a faster level wind and some carbon inlay. Or am I missing something?

Dual aluminum side plates. Sexy black paint with gold accents.

34mm spool, 8.6 ratio and 100mm handle...shoot.

What are the chances a new Zillion comes out based off this reel rather than a Tatula 100 based Zillion? Didn't the original Morethan come out just before the Zillion TWS? I seem to recall the Morethan being ridiculed for being a Tatula that you are paying Morethan you should.

LowRange wrote:What are the chances a new Zillion comes out based off this reel rather than a Tatula 100 based Zillion? Didn't the original Morethan come out just before the Zillion TWS? I seem to recall the Morethan being ridiculed for being a Tatula that you are paying Morethan you should.

You're right, it was a Zillion TWS with a 34mm Tatula sized free floating spool and nitride line guide and magseal like the Zillion HD.

I've had to bite my tongue the last couple of hours as I have gazed down at my beloved Morthan PE SV 8.1R-TW and back up at the new "improved" version.

My first impression of the new reel compared to the old (while trying not to be a Debbie Downer):
-New reel 20-30 grams lighter depending on Gear Ratio-Neutral overall but bad for me. As someone mentioned the 17 Destroyer is a visual match made in heaven. IMHO the Javalin is the perfect match for the Morethan. That combo balances just forward of the lockdown nut with the 225 gram (old version) Morethan (without line). Any weight reduction and that combo is pretty tip forward.
-ATD vs. UTD- Same washers, different grease.
-100mm Handle vs. 90mm handle- I have never thought, man I wish I had a 100mm handle on this thing. Maybe the 100mm handle mitigates that 8.6 Gear Ratio.
-Gear Ratio- It's great to have new gear ratio options, but why drop the 8.1?
-Hyper Digigear- I don't have my box on handy but the old Morethan is advertised as having it as well as the new one-nothing new here
-Aluminum Side Plates- This is good, but I have never felt that the old version was anything but ROCK SOLID.
-New Side Plate- Not holding back here and most people disagree, but I hate that frickin' sideplate. Kept me from buying the Steez for 2 years. I love my Steez A, but I have grown to hate that sideplate even more. The dial is a pain to get to, you can't read the numbers on the dial, that big indention is built to gather dust, dirt and junk.
I have many Daiwa/MB variants with the protruding dial. Some suck because even new out of the box then can "self adjust" when handling and casting, weak little clickies. My Morethan and Battler have rock solid dials...loud, clear, precise and distinctive clicks. Like a fine watch!
-Bling- There is a clear bling downgrade on the new Morethan. Gold spool tension dial-gone (stolen straight off of a Steez, color and all). Gold Carbon inlay, reduced. Gold encrusted MagDial-gone. Gold thingy that seperates the handle sideplate-gone. Gold housing around handle plate-Rifled-Why Rifle?
34MM Spool-I'm measuring mine everyway to Sunday and it's 34MM tall, difference compared to a standard Daiwa 34MM spool is the width. The width is the same as an 36MM HLC/BATTLER/Zillion TW. This is why it has never been interchangable with anything. If the new one is not and just narrower that the old version, it just means that it is even that much more deeper considering the larger line capacity. Deeper spool-Bad
Zero Adjuster-I want to adjust, I want to adjust a dial that has gold bling and little dots and clicks like a finely wound Rolex, just like the old Morethan.

I am biased. This was my first high end reel and still my favorite.

Now I am really stressed. It's no longer Stress Free-It's no longer Versitile. It's a deep spool RCSB 1000