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Re: 2019 Daiwa Morethan PE 1000 TW

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 6:17 am
by kolp
To all those asking about brass gears - Hyper digigear is Daiwas top tier gearing made of marine bronze. This is one of the key differences that sets the Morethan reels (spinning and baitcast) apart from their siblings.

Re: 2019 Daiwa Morethan PE 1000 TW

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:49 am
by DirtyD64
I really would like to see a breakdown of the new 2019 Morethan, just to differentiate from the Steez A. The gear composition is the main thing, the weight tells a different story though and makes me think they are both an aluminum style gear...

Re: 2019 Daiwa Morethan PE 1000 TW

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:39 am
by jvelth74
I’m sure that a lot of people in here would like to see opened Morethan vs. Steez. I would also.

In my opinion weight difference is a little. Sound’s like hybrid gears. But maybe they have lightened Morethan in some way and there is full brass gears.

Re: 2019 Daiwa Morethan PE 1000 TW

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:16 pm
by 4g63power
The so-called hyper digi gear in morethan pe sv(8:1) is full brass. Mine was very rough out of the box, ended up replacing it with the gearset from zillion tw. I hope it won't be the case with the new morethan. The morethan also comes with metal star drag, that's where extra weight vs steez A may come from too other than brass gear and 100mm handle.

Re: 2019 Daiwa Morethan PE 1000 TW

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 4:08 pm
by Polkfish1
4g63power wrote:The so-called hyper digi gear in morethan pe sv(8:1) is full brass. Mine was very rough out of the box, ended up replacing it with the gearset from zillion tw. I hope it won't be the case with the new morethan. The morethan also comes with metal star drag, that's where extra weight vs steez A may come from too other than brass gear and 100mm handle.

My new morethan PE 1000 is just as smooth as my steez sv tw, just has a much more solid og-zillion feel to it if you know what I mean. The metal drag star is huge for the plastic phobic guys like me that can’t tell the difference between a few grams unless it’s tied to the end of a line.

Re: 2019 Daiwa Morethan PE 1000 TW

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 4:59 pm
by kolp
4g63power wrote:The so-called hyper digi gear in morethan pe sv(8:1) is full brass. Mine was very rough out of the box, ended up replacing it with the gearset from zillion tw. I hope it won't be the case with the new morethan. The morethan also comes with metal star drag, that's where extra weight vs steez A may come from too other than brass gear and 100mm handle.
Hyper digigear is known to be not as smooth as their normal gears, it is the trade off for a more durable material. Pretty sure Daiwa previously (a number of years ago, back when the Certate Hyper was released) had a note on their Japanese website that mentioned this

Re: 2019 Daiwa Morethan PE 1000 TW

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:03 pm
by kolp
"Adopting C6191, which has 1.6 times the strength of duralumin as a drive gear material, it has dramatically improved strength and durability by further increasing the diameter. Here, the shape of the tooth surface was fundamentally reviewed by computer analysis, and a process not allowing micro error was added, and "HyperDigiGear" was born. Ideal meshing with the pinion brings out a very powerful hoisting force as well as silky rotation."

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http://www.daiwa.com/jp/fishing/item/re ... index.html

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"This is an evolution of the Digigear made with precision tooling of C6191 marine bronze for a gear that’s both light and 1.6x tougher than Dura-aluminium. "

https://www.daiwa-france.com/technology ... digigear-4

Re: 2019 Daiwa Morethan PE 1000 TW

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:28 pm
by Polkfish1
kolp wrote:"Adopting C6191, which has 1.6 times the strength of duralumin as a drive gear material, it has dramatically improved strength and durability by further increasing the diameter. Here, the shape of the tooth surface was fundamentally reviewed by computer analysis, and a process not allowing micro error was added, and "HyperDigiGear" was born. Ideal meshing with the pinion brings out a very powerful hoisting force as well as silky rotation."

translated from -
http://www.daiwa.com/jp/fishing/item/re ... index.html

Also -
"This is an evolution of the Digigear made with precision tooling of C6191 marine bronze for a gear that’s both light and 1.6x tougher than Dura-aluminium. "

https://www.daiwa-france.com/technology ... digigear-4
Great info sir. Thanks. I for one am satisfied that you have solved this. I wasn’t planning on ripping my reel apart any time soon, and this seems to put the question to rest.

Re: 2019 Daiwa Morethan PE 1000 TW

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 6:53 am
by Blauwe Lori
What lure weight you Can handle With this reel?

Re: 2019 Daiwa Morethan PE 1000 TW

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:21 am
by DirtyD64
Polkfish1 wrote:
kolp wrote:"Adopting C6191, which has 1.6 times the strength of duralumin as a drive gear material, it has dramatically improved strength and durability by further increasing the diameter. Here, the shape of the tooth surface was fundamentally reviewed by computer analysis, and a process not allowing micro error was added, and "HyperDigiGear" was born. Ideal meshing with the pinion brings out a very powerful hoisting force as well as silky rotation."

translated from -
http://www.daiwa.com/jp/fishing/item/re ... index.html

Also -
"This is an evolution of the Digigear made with precision tooling of C6191 marine bronze for a gear that’s both light and 1.6x tougher than Dura-aluminium. "

https://www.daiwa-france.com/technology ... digigear-4
Great info sir. Thanks. I for one am satisfied that you have solved this. I wasn’t planning on ripping my reel apart any time soon, and this seems to put the question to rest.
Still want to see those gears!!!

Re: 2019 Daiwa Morethan PE 1000 TW

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:18 am
by jvelth74
I don’t courage anybody Morethan owner to open their new reel. Usually neither do I to open my new (and expensive) reel. But I know that some people want’s to open their new reel and to see inside the reel. I’m just hoping that somebody who usually open their reels has decided to buy Morethan.

Re: 2019 Daiwa Morethan PE 1000 TW

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 2:09 pm
by BARRAMANIAC
I have seen pictures . The morethan 7.1 is alloy gears the same as Steez A. The 8.6 model is a brass gear.

Re: 2019 Daiwa Morethan PE 1000 TW

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 2:10 pm
by BARRAMANIAC
jvelth74 wrote:I don’t courage anybody Morethan owner to open their new reel. Usually neither do I to open my new (and expensive) reel. But I know that some people want’s to open their new reel and to see inside the reel. I’m just hoping that somebody who usually open their reels has decided to buy Morethan.
I encourage everyone to have a new reel pre serviced as most new reels aren't lubricated correctly.

Re: 2019 Daiwa Morethan PE 1000 TW

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:09 am
by kolp
BARRAMANIAC wrote:I have seen pictures . The morethan 7.1 is alloy gears the same as Steez A. The 8.6 model is a brass gear.
I call bollocks on that claim. The previous Morethan PE SV TW had marine bronze gears (hyper digigear), there is no way Daiwa would advertise the new model as having Hyper Digigear if it didnt. Anyone who owns Morethan reels know that this is the main selling point of these reels.

Re: 2019 Daiwa Morethan PE 1000 TW

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:43 am
by y2k88