Fishing ole classics

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Re: Fishing ole classics

Post by hungry_cow » Tue Feb 05, 2019 2:58 pm

All my reels are Daiwa but none are from their newer offerings. I have

2 TDZ R+
Ito
Personal Order
Pixzilla
PX Type R
Alpha Type R
Monoblock
Lin 10
IS71

Most are upgraded with different handles and ZPI spools. I don't feel as though I sacrifice any quality and in general prefer the bigger frames of the older reels as I have bigger hands and don't get as good a grip on the newer tiny reels and only like a small reel for finesse.

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Re: Fishing ole classics

Post by Slazmo » Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:44 pm

I'd love to give this a flick but common sense is telling me not to...

Such a nice all round reel to hold and wind... Wish I had another to actually use that wasn't in as good shape...
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And it against its newer brethren...
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Here's hoping to keep this thread going with more pics!

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Re: Fishing ole classics

Post by Hogsticker2 » Wed Jun 05, 2019 11:24 pm

Nah. Nothing I have now is older than '15. I don't fish Shimano, so yeah. I think it's mostly a nostalgia thing to be honest. I mean the majority of Daiwa reels are still being manufactured, and the for the most part, the only thing that's changed is the spool. Tdz is long gone, and the Pixy left the building not too much later. I'll take either new Steez over the old model every day of the week. It's just a better footprint in my hands. We can argue brass vs duraluminum all day, but a good majority of gears are interchangeable. Steez 70 could be considered a replacement for the Pixy. Either platform is great, but let's be honest, the 70 is likely the better performer. So what are we missing - Tdz and OG Zillion? Not sure wtf Daiwa was thinking, discontinuing the SV103. I've said it before, and I'll say it again, we all enjoy the spool and part swapping Daiwa offers. The fact that's possible, tells me not a whole lot has changed. I do however miss full magnesium construction. I know Ryan loves his old models, and he has one hell of a collection. But I also believe it will be fruitful to broaden his horizons as he mentioned.

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Re: Fishing ole classics

Post by LowRange » Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:08 am

True classics never die. See: Daiwa Alphas.

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Re: Fishing ole classics

Post by Slazmo » Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:27 am

LowRange wrote:
Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:08 am
True classics never die. See: Daiwa Alphas.
Which series and year of manufacture?

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Re: Fishing ole classics

Post by Edward78 » Thu Jun 06, 2019 7:32 am

Some of my favorite reels are 10+ years old, Daiwa TDZ 100ML, Shimano original Conquest 101DC, Shimano Conquest 51DC, Shimano Conquest 51. I love classic designs and it feels just a little better when I catch a fish on one.

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Re: Fishing ole classics

Post by LowRange » Thu Jun 06, 2019 12:24 pm

Slazmo wrote:
Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:27 am
LowRange wrote:
Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:08 am
True classics never die. See: Daiwa Alphas.
Which series and year of manufacture?
All of them. The reel has been in production in some form since it was introduced. There aren't generations or different platforms. There is just the Alphas.

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Re: Fishing ole classics

Post by Bmauldin22 » Thu Jun 06, 2019 1:12 pm

I still use my Chronarch D7, Chronarch 200E5, and the Cores

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Re: Fishing ole classics

Post by Slazmo » Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:52 pm

LowRange wrote:
Thu Jun 06, 2019 12:24 pm
All of them. The reel has been in production in some form since it was introduced. There aren't generations or different platforms. There is just the Alphas.
It would be akin to saying that to apply to the Curado namesake. I'd dare say that there would be clear definable series allotment of production dates or variation to builds - would have to be something that defines the years of production over the decades its been in circulation otherwise you couldn't say a newer model doesn't differ from the original back in circa 2004 (so resale etc would suffer)

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Re: Fishing ole classics

Post by LowRange » Thu Jun 06, 2019 4:23 pm

Slazmo wrote:
Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:52 pm
LowRange wrote:
Thu Jun 06, 2019 12:24 pm
All of them. The reel has been in production in some form since it was introduced. There aren't generations or different platforms. There is just the Alphas.
It would be akin to saying that to apply to the Curado namesake. I'd dare say that there would be clear definable series allotment of production dates or variation to builds - would have to be something that defines the years of production over the decades its been in circulation otherwise you couldn't say a newer model doesn't differ from the original back in circa 2004 (so resale etc would suffer)
I would argue that it is the opposite. Curados have had a number of generations. The Alphas is the Alphas. It has been the same plaform from the same generation since its introduction. There have been different models over time but the differences are subtle changes in parts such as faster gear sets, difference spools, drag stars ect. I own a number of older Alphas and newer ones. They are the same reel. The 32 and 30 mm spools reels have been the biggest changes this platform has seen. The change to a Zaion handle side plate was sort of significant I guess.

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Re: Fishing ole classics

Post by poisonokie » Thu Jun 06, 2019 4:35 pm

LowRange wrote:
Thu Jun 06, 2019 4:23 pm
Slazmo wrote:
Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:52 pm
LowRange wrote:
Thu Jun 06, 2019 12:24 pm
All of them. The reel has been in production in some form since it was introduced. There aren't generations or different platforms. There is just the Alphas.
It would be akin to saying that to apply to the Curado namesake. I'd dare say that there would be clear definable series allotment of production dates or variation to builds - would have to be something that defines the years of production over the decades its been in circulation otherwise you couldn't say a newer model doesn't differ from the original back in circa 2004 (so resale etc would suffer)
I would argue that it is the opposite. Curados have had a number of generations. The Alphas is the Alphas. It has been the same plaform from the same generation since its introduction. There have been different models over time but the differences are subtle changes in parts such as faster gear sets, difference spools, drag stars ect. I own a number of older Alphas and newer ones. They are the same reel. The 32 and 30 mm spools reels have been the biggest changes this platform has seen. The change to a Zaion handle side plate was sort of significant I guess.
Don't forget the 31mm spool.

The SV and later have clicking drag stars, but I really don't care about that myself. I'm pretty sure the drag material is updated, too, and that is welcome.
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Re: Fishing ole classics

Post by Fishing4Fun » Thu Jun 06, 2019 7:57 pm

I love new and classic reels. The more simplistic maintenance of older more bulletproof reels is nice for someone like me that doesn't want to monkey around with reels with the DC system and more complex insides like a Conquest.

The Conquest 50, Chronarch D, Curado 100b and E series Shimanos are the oldest I have still. For Daiwa I won't part with either of my Pixies, my OG Steez, and several TDZs. I have newer offerings like the Met MGL, Exscence DC, SV 103, Tatula 100 Anniversary, SV 105, and others as well. I enjoy fishing all of them. Sometimes I just prefer the uniqueness of some of the reels.

With the Conquest 50 just how small and compact a low profile reel can be.
The Chronarch D just how smooth the reel is and how far it casts
How small and finesse capable the pixie platform is
The pop up hood on the T3 1016 and the incredible distance casting
The whine of the DC reels
The forgiveness in casting into the wind or less aerodymamic baits from the SV reels
Sometimes I just enjoy the color and styling elements a certain reel uses. Like the Yellow Pixy for example.

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Re: Fishing ole classics

Post by lifeofRiley » Thu Jun 06, 2019 11:36 pm

It turns out my favorite reels are Shimanos from the mid 90s up through the end of the 2000s.

I do have a CH100SF, "the golden egg" just like slazmos, except she has some boat rash from fishing her in my younger years. I believe she was a display model from Gander Mountain in Roseville, a tackle shop. She had been collecting dust as in my younger years I used reels until the bearings and/or gears went dry and then threw them in a box. I have since learned how to maintain equip. and luckily got one of the last sets of new brass gears for her and replaced the bearings, etc.

I just bought a CH100D7 off the classifieds here that is in mint condition, so I look forward to fishing it along with my 3 other D7's which are mechanically 10/10 but cosmetically have a lot of boat rash from the buddy I bought them from.

I have 2 bantam CH100s, 4 CU200Bs, 1 CU100B, 2 CH50MGs, 2 CH50Es, 8 CU200E7s, 3 CH200E7s, 1 CU200BSF

I do also have a Daiwa TDX103HVA which is special to me, because it was the first high dollar reel I owned, and lots of good memories with that reel back when I was young and dumb. I cleaned it and added carbontex washers and it seems to work good.

I've really loved taking all these old reels I grew up fishing, buying new gear sets because I had trashed the old ones, and new bearings where need be, or in many cases just lubing up the original bearings. Replacing or refinishing drag washers, and in the end getting an old reel that works as good as new or maybe even better. Honestly I have a met MGL and bantam MGL, a couple SV103s and I haven't used them that much as my stable of curados and chronarchs are my go-to reels. Thanks everyone on this site who has given me tips from part numbers, how-to cleaning advice, bearing maintenance, etc.

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Re: Fishing ole classics

Post by Slazmo » Fri Jun 07, 2019 3:05 am

Some of the old classics... Just cant be replicated... The Bantam MGL may wear the Bantam name but not the Bantam personality. Were lucky to have survivors of these reels as the saltwater environment literally turned these things to dust quicker than an aspro in a glass of water...

And our population didn't see the volume that the US saw of these reels imported.

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Re: Fishing ole classics

Post by Slazmo » Fri Jun 07, 2019 3:11 am

Cont... And I'll agree with you LifeofRiley it did start to taper off after the early 2000's.
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