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Zillion SV and ZPI RC 002

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 5:31 pm
by MountainMan 83
Picked up a racing red RC 002 spool this week and went to pop it in my zillion sv and the palm plate wouldn't close. Ok, I've seen this before, no problem. Started pulling out the shims on each side one by one and reassembling. Still wouldn't close. Then I remembered I picked up an OG zillion pinion last tackle trap order which is significantly shorter. Still nothing. Then removed it all together. Nada. It seems to not want to sit deep enough on the handle side.

Anyone run one of these spools in this reel? Anything I can do to get it to work?

Re: Zillion SV and ZPI RC 002

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 6:00 pm
by poisonokie
Did you back off the spool tension?

Re: Zillion SV and ZPI RC 002

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 6:27 pm
by MountainMan 83
poisonokie wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2019 6:00 pm
Did you back off the spool tension?
Yeah, I eventually removed the pinion shaft. Still won't work.

Re: Zillion SV and ZPI RC 002

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:46 pm
by poisonokie
Does it fit in an OG Steez or TDZ?

Re: Zillion SV and ZPI RC 002

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 11:30 pm
by LowRange
Fit the spool to the palming plate. Does the spool bearing seat into the palming plate?

Re: Zillion SV and ZPI RC 002

Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2019 2:49 am
by MountainMan 83
poisonokie wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:46 pm
Does it fit in an OG Steez or TDZ?
I left it at work before I hit the gym last night. I'll pick it up today and see.
LowRange wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2019 11:30 pm
Fit the spool to the palming plate. Does the spool bearing seat into the palming plate?
The spool sits in the palming plate seemingly fine. I'm not sure I follow you though, the spool bearing is already seated in the palm plate and held in by a retaining clip.

Re: Zillion SV and ZPI RC 002

Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:10 am
by iabass8
Did you remove the bearing coupler that the spool bearing sits in on the stock zillion SV spool?

Re: Zillion SV and ZPI RC 002

Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:21 am
by poisonokie
iabass8 wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:10 am
Did you remove the bearing coupler that the spool bearing sits in on the stock zillion SV spool?
That spool has the 5mm shaft doesn't it? The bearing should seat right in there. I'm wondering if it has a bent pin that's keeping it from seating in the pinion.

I had to use a thicker palm plate shim to get my NRC M to center perfectly in a Zillion SV, which is kind of the opposite problem. Different spool, I know, but, well I don't know what I'm trying to say lol. Good luck! I hope you find the issue without too much trouble.

Re: Zillion SV and ZPI RC 002

Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:43 am
by MountainMan 83
iabass8 wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:10 am
Did you remove the bearing coupler that the spool bearing sits in on the stock zillion SV spool?
I did not. I forgot all about that. I'll measure the bearing on the spool; it looks like it was changed, doesn't look like a ZPI unless their older bearings look different.

Re: Zillion SV and ZPI RC 002

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:24 pm
by MountainMan 83
poisonokie wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:46 pm
Does it fit in an OG Steez or TDZ?
It does fit in an OG steez and you were right about the spool bearing not needing the collar.

Sadly, the spool will just not fit in this reel. The spool rotor just sticks out too much/the braking enclosure is too shallow. I even removed some material where the spacers fit, incase it was the spindle bottoming out.
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Re: Zillion SV and ZPI RC 002

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 4:41 pm
by SSS
Yep this spool is not for every 34mm platform. I remember buying one for my Ryoga1016, did the shim mod and nothing, couldn't use it. Should work perfectly fine in a tdz and steez.

Re: Zillion SV and ZPI RC 002

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:17 pm
by poisonokie
Bummer.

Re: Zillion SV and ZPI RC 002

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 7:05 pm
by poisonokie
On the plus side, the NRC was made for that reel and could scarcely be improved upon, except in an OG Steez where the RC is probably equally well suited.

Re: Zillion SV and ZPI RC 002

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 9:01 pm
by KP Duty
This is terrible, but glad I read it. I was getting ready to move an m spool over to my 9.1 sv. 1012 it is...

Re: Zillion SV and ZPI RC 002

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 6:11 am
by poisonokie
KP Duty wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2019 9:01 pm
This is terrible, but glad I read it. I was getting ready to move an m spool over to my 9.1 sv. 1012 it is...
You can and absolutely should use the NRC M in your Zillion SV. The OP is trying to use an older model, the RC.

I can't comment on the new G1 spools, but I'm sure they'll be around longer than the ZPI spools.