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Daiwa Steez Air 2020

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 12:25 pm
by Dalleinf

Re: Daiwa Steez Air 2020

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 1:54 pm
by Hogsticker2
So is mine. It's screaming thank you for having no interest in this reel!

Re: Daiwa Steez Air 2020

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 2:17 pm
by ss30378
I think with this new micro sized spool they need a new super duper ultra lightweight solid tipped ags rod to go with it...

Re: Daiwa Steez Air 2020

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 2:46 pm
by hoohoorjoo
Hogsticker2 wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2019 1:54 pm
So is mine. It's screaming thank you for having no interest in this reel!
I'm with you, Mark. That thing is bordering on hideous. :sick: And for $645, it needs a carbon handle, corks and something besides a plastic drag star. ](*,)

Re: Daiwa Steez Air 2020

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 2:56 pm
by dennis_rf
seems like there was no budget left for machining on the handle... budget reels huh 😂😂

Re: Daiwa Steez Air 2020

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 3:31 pm
by fishes
I hate how it looks but I already know im going to buy one

Re: Daiwa Steez Air 2020

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 6:20 pm
by Polkfish1
I have no interest in this reel given the line capacity and that the regular ct goes as low weight wise as I will ever need with good distance.

But, regarding looks that seem to be disliked by most, I think it might surprise people in person or with better pictures. I think the all black t-wing and blacked out black end pieces on nobs are nice touches and that non cut handle, if matte, might give it a sinister look. Unfortunately, nothing can be done about the oversize vector D.

Re: Daiwa Steez Air 2020

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 9:02 pm
by Dalleinf
Hogsticker2 wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2019 1:54 pm
So is mine. It's screaming thank you for having no interest in this reel!
That was my first thought. Knowing myself, I will become interested before next summer when trout season kicks in...

Re: Daiwa Steez Air 2020

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 12:01 am
by FishNrace
And not sure why they take an extra year to release the 7.1:1 gear ratios.... like they're doing with last year's Steez ct sv tw. Not releasing the popular high gear at the same time is the weirdest trend I've seen from Daiwa in a while.
Glad I'm passing on this one too.

Re: Daiwa Steez Air 2020

Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 4:25 am
by scrapiron
Yeah, not a fan of the big logo on the side. Tempting, but I think I can do whatever I need to throw with a ZPI M spool and a Steez A. 😬

Re: Daiwa Steez Air 2020

Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 6:40 am
by jvelth74
I love BFS fishing and in case of moment of inertia of spool can be reduced, it makes BFS fishing even more enjoyable. If momentum of inertia is small, lighter rod can be used. And casting control is better because smaller amount of magnetic brake is enough to control spool. Small diameter of spool is good because it reduces moment of inertia and in addition to that, in similar cast spool turns faster which makes it easier for magnetic brake to work. I really want this new tiny spool, but I'm afraid of this new little Steez is too expensive for me. I really wish Daiwa introduces more reasonable priced reel with this spool. Zillion, Alphas or Pixy..

Re: Daiwa Steez Air 2020

Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 8:42 am
by poisonokie
jvelth74 wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 6:40 am
I love BFS fishing and in case of moment of inertia of spool can be reduced, it makes BFS fishing even more enjoyable. If momentum of inertia is small, lighter rod can be used. And casting control is better because smaller amount of magnetic brake is enough to control spool. Small diameter of spool is good because it reduces moment of inertia and in addition to that, in similar cast spool turns faster which makes it easier for magnetic brake to work. I really want this new tiny spool, but I'm afraid of this new little Steez is too expensive for me. I really wish Daiwa introduces more reasonable priced reel with this spool. Zillion, Alphas or Pixy..
That's the idea behind the 30mm CT SV spools and honestly I haven't seen a whole lot of people raving about them. In fact it seems like a pretty lukewarm reception. One spool people do rave about is the NRC001 and those are simple fixed inductor 34mm spools, so I'm not sure going even smaller is the answer, especially in the bass world. It probably is just to keep people from buying that spool for their CT reel, just like they did with making the Tatula SV 33mm.

Re: Daiwa Steez Air 2020

Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 5:18 pm
by Polkfish1
poisonokie wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 8:42 am
jvelth74 wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 6:40 am
I love BFS fishing and in case of moment of inertia of spool can be reduced, it makes BFS fishing even more enjoyable. If momentum of inertia is small, lighter rod can be used. And casting control is better because smaller amount of magnetic brake is enough to control spool. Small diameter of spool is good because it reduces moment of inertia and in addition to that, in similar cast spool turns faster which makes it easier for magnetic brake to work. I really want this new tiny spool, but I'm afraid of this new little Steez is too expensive for me. I really wish Daiwa introduces more reasonable priced reel with this spool. Zillion, Alphas or Pixy..
That's the idea behind the 30mm CT SV spools and honestly I haven't seen a whole lot of people raving about them. In fact it seems like a pretty lukewarm reception. One spool people do rave about is the NRC001 and those are simple fixed inductor 34mm spools, so I'm not sure going even smaller is the answer, especially in the bass world. It probably is just to keep people from buying that spool for their CT reel, just like they did with making the Tatula SV 33mm.

This may be in part due to low sample size. At the price point, it’s not a very accessible reel to try out, especially if it’s not a niche that ‘needs’ to be filled in one’s arsenal.

I did end up getting one. It is an awesome reel and great spool. However, it did not have impact on my casting compared to existing steez Sv tv with newer zpi spool as compared with something game changing like when sv spools first came out.

Re: Daiwa Steez Air 2020

Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 7:28 pm
by Hogsticker2
Polkfish1 wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 5:18 pm
poisonokie wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 8:42 am
jvelth74 wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 6:40 am
I love BFS fishing and in case of moment of inertia of spool can be reduced, it makes BFS fishing even more enjoyable. If momentum of inertia is small, lighter rod can be used. And casting control is better because smaller amount of magnetic brake is enough to control spool. Small diameter of spool is good because it reduces moment of inertia and in addition to that, in similar cast spool turns faster which makes it easier for magnetic brake to work. I really want this new tiny spool, but I'm afraid of this new little Steez is too expensive for me. I really wish Daiwa introduces more reasonable priced reel with this spool. Zillion, Alphas or Pixy..
That's the idea behind the 30mm CT SV spools and honestly I haven't seen a whole lot of people raving about them. In fact it seems like a pretty lukewarm reception. One spool people do rave about is the NRC001 and those are simple fixed inductor 34mm spools, so I'm not sure going even smaller is the answer, especially in the bass world. It probably is just to keep people from buying that spool for their CT reel, just like they did with making the Tatula SV 33mm.

This may be in part due to low sample size. At the price point, it’s not a very accessible reel to try out, especially if it’s not a niche that ‘needs’ to be filled in one’s arsenal.

I did end up getting one. It is an awesome reel and great spool. However, it did not have impact on my casting compared to existing steez Sv tv with newer zpi spool as compared with something game changing like when sv spools first came out.
What did you end up getting? I'm curious, as I believe my Steez SV TW with Nrc001-m spool is the best caster in my arsenal.

Re: Daiwa Steez Air 2020

Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 1:49 am
by jvelth74
Comparing 34 mm Momo spool to 30 mm Roro spool there is significant difference in casting sub 3 g weights. I believe there will be significant difference also in 28 mm vs. 30 mm in lightest fishing. It makes lightest rods more usable in stream fishing because light spool is so responsible.