4000 Spinning Reels for 7'6" L Rods

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4000 Spinning Reels for 7'6" L Rods

Post by cutthroat » Thu Jan 09, 2020 2:53 pm

I have a Loomis IMX-PRO 901SJR(7'6" L/F) spinning Rod on the way. I've read and seen on video that some anglers are using 4000 size spinning reels on their 7'6" L/ML spinning rods for hair jigs, Ned's and small swimbaits. Some claim they get more distance with the larger spool and less line twist. I'm not sure how much more distance they actually do achieve(?). Plus, is the distant worth the extra weight of a 4000 reel? Wanted to ask if any you guys use a 4000 reel? What are the advantages and disadvantages?

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Re: 4000 Spinning Reels for 7'6" L Rods

Post by Cracker » Thu Jan 09, 2020 3:13 pm

4000 by Daiwa or Shimano? My Daiwa 3000 has bigger spool in diameter than 4000 Stella.

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Re: 4000 Spinning Reels for 7'6" L Rods

Post by cutthroat » Thu Jan 09, 2020 3:20 pm

Cracker wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2020 3:13 pm
4000 by Daiwa or Shimano? My Daiwa 3000 has bigger spool in diameter than 4000 Stella.
It can be either a 4000 Shimano or 3000 Daiwa.

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Re: 4000 Spinning Reels for 7'6" L Rods

Post by JWY » Thu Jan 09, 2020 3:28 pm

The gain in casting distance aside (probably would only be marginal), I think a heavier reel would help to balance the outfit a bit better esp. one intended for rod tip-up techniques.

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Re: 4000 Spinning Reels for 7'6" L Rods

Post by cutthroat » Thu Jan 09, 2020 3:41 pm

JWY wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2020 3:28 pm
The gain in casting distance aside (probably would only be marginal), I think a heavier reel would help to balance the outfit a bit better esp. one intended for rod tip-up techniques.
My thinking on both matters as well. I have a Sustain FB that weighs in at 10.1 oz. that will give me a better idea on balance. Some of the 4000 reels are around that 10 oz. range.

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Re: 4000 Spinning Reels for 7'6" L Rods

Post by QUAKEnSHAKE » Thu Jan 09, 2020 9:01 pm

cutthroat wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2020 2:53 pm
I have a Loomis IMX-PRO 901SJR(7'6" L/F) spinning Rod on the way. I've read and seen on video that some anglers are using 4000 size spinning reels on their 7'6" L/ML spinning rods for hair jigs, Ned's and small swimbaits. Some claim they get more distance with the larger spool and less line twist. I'm not sure how much more distance they actually do achieve(?). Plus, is the distant worth the extra weight of a 4000 reel? Wanted to ask if any you guys use a 4000 reel? What are the advantages and disadvantages?
There are a number of 4000/40 size reels 7.5-8oz, so not all that much weight added, if needing/wanting to keep weight in check.

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Re: 4000 Spinning Reels for 7'6" L Rods

Post by BRONZEBACK32 » Thu Jan 09, 2020 9:23 pm

I use a 2500 stella on my 901nrx and it balances pretty well, not perfect but pretty good, I also have a certate 3000
on a MB Flyssa and the balance is the same as my NRX combo.

I sell a lot of fly rods where I work and none of them are balanced if that helps your decision :big grin:

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Re: 4000 Spinning Reels for 7'6" L Rods

Post by Cracker » Fri Jan 10, 2020 6:41 am

I used to use Daiwa's size 3000 (54mm diameter spool) on my ML, M, MH Legend Extreme St. Croix rods, because I thought the bigger spool gives me the edge on distance (it always was speculation about it), which I never actually properly tested.
Since I replaced those rods to same rods, I had to downsize the reels to 2500 spool diameter for them, because the St. Croix makes them now with 20mm stripper (instead of 25mm) guide :shock:
I would say - yes, you can use the size 3000(4000) on M/MH rods, if the stripper guide is a big enough on your reels.

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Re: 4000 Spinning Reels for 7'6" L Rods

Post by cutthroat » Fri Jan 10, 2020 10:45 am

QUAKEnSHAKE wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2020 9:01 pm
cutthroat wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2020 2:53 pm
I have a Loomis IMX-PRO 901SJR(7'6" L/F) spinning Rod on the way. I've read and seen on video that some anglers are using 4000 size spinning reels on their 7'6" L/ML spinning rods for hair jigs, Ned's and small swimbaits. Some claim they get more distance with the larger spool and less line twist. I'm not sure how much more distance they actually do achieve(?). Plus, is the distant worth the extra weight of a 4000 reel? Wanted to ask if any you guys use a 4000 reel? What are the advantages and disadvantages?
There are a number of 4000/40 size reels 7.5-8oz, so not all that much weight added, if needing/wanting to keep weight in check.
Thanks. There is a few models that are in the 6oz. range.

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Re: 4000 Spinning Reels for 7'6" L Rods

Post by cutthroat » Fri Jan 10, 2020 10:47 am

BRONZEBACK32 wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2020 9:23 pm
I use a 2500 stella on my 901nrx and it balances pretty well, not perfect but pretty good, I also have a certate 3000
on a MB Flyssa and the balance is the same as my NRX combo.

I sell a lot of fly rods where I work and none of them are balanced if that helps your decision :big grin:
I have a couple of 10' NRX fly rods and both don't balance perfect either.

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Re: 4000 Spinning Reels for 7'6" L Rods

Post by cutthroat » Fri Jan 10, 2020 10:51 am

Cracker wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 6:41 am
I used to use Daiwa's size 3000 (54mm diameter spool) on my ML, M, MH Legend Extreme St. Croix rods, because I thought the bigger spool gives me the edge on distance (it always was speculation about it), which I never actually properly tested.
Since I replaced those rods to same rods, I had to downsize the reels to 2500 spool diameter for them, because the St. Croix makes them now with 20mm stripper (instead of 25mm) guide :shock:
I would say - yes, you can use the size 3000(4000) on M/MH rods, if the stripper guide is a big enough on your reels.
Would it be safe to say that the distance you had on the 3000 reel was barely noticeable?

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Re: 4000 Spinning Reels for 7'6" L Rods

Post by Cracker » Fri Jan 10, 2020 11:35 am

cutthroat wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 10:51 am
Cracker wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 6:41 am
I used to use Daiwa's size 3000 (54mm diameter spool) on my ML, M, MH Legend Extreme St. Croix rods, because I thought the bigger spool gives me the edge on distance (it always was speculation about it), which I never actually properly tested.
Since I replaced those rods to same rods, I had to downsize the reels to 2500 spool diameter for them, because the St. Croix makes them now with 20mm stripper (instead of 25mm) guide :shock:
I would say - yes, you can use the size 3000(4000) on M/MH rods, if the stripper guide is a big enough on your reels.
Would it be safe to say that the distance you had on the 3000 reel was barely noticeable?
Barely noticeable, when we are talking 25mm stripper guide, and you will probably even decrease your distance on 20mm stripper.

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Re: 4000 Spinning Reels for 7'6" L Rods

Post by cutthroat » Fri Jan 10, 2020 4:18 pm

Cracker wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 11:35 am
cutthroat wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 10:51 am
Cracker wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 6:41 am
I used to use Daiwa's size 3000 (54mm diameter spool) on my ML, M, MH Legend Extreme St. Croix rods, because I thought the bigger spool gives me the edge on distance (it always was speculation about it), which I never actually properly tested.
Since I replaced those rods to same rods, I had to downsize the reels to 2500 spool diameter for them, because the St. Croix makes them now with 20mm stripper (instead of 25mm) guide :shock:
I would say - yes, you can use the size 3000(4000) on M/MH rods, if the stripper guide is a big enough on your reels.
Would it be safe to say that the distance you had on the 3000 reel was barely noticeable?
Barely noticeable, when we are talking 25mm stripper guide, and you will probably even decrease your distance on 20mm stripper.
Thanks.

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Re: 4000 Spinning Reels for 7'6" L Rods

Post by Hulkster » Sat Jan 11, 2020 12:58 pm

I like a 3000 size shimano spinner on my 7'5 medium powered rod.

i think a 4000 would be way too bulky

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Re: 4000 Spinning Reels for 7'6" L Rods

Post by HobeyBaker » Sun Jan 12, 2020 5:36 pm

4000 size Daiwa's in the LT sizing is perfect. The larger spool also reduces line twist.

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