I just can't trust daiwa on this one , until I see one with grease on the gears from the factory.Houndfish wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 12:52 pmMy newTat SV is on a rod that will see rough use and the muddiest water you can think of, so I hope to know sooner rather than later how it holds up. I have kept it internally stock, never even cracked it open to look and check lube.freelancer27 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 12:19 pmI am super impressed with my Daiwa Coastal SV TW as well so far! Smootheness is def on the same level as my Steez A and Steez SV TW.
Of course the later are already a couple of years old. So one would need to see how the new Tatula's behave over time.
Looking forward to get my other Tatulas now and compare!
Tatula Elite vs Steez A
Re: Tatula Elite vs Steez A
Re: Tatula Elite vs Steez A
Hah, well we shall see!
I also have a Steez SV TW still rocking it's factory grease or lack thereof, but it's due for a cleaning this spring and will get some love then. It still feels as smooth as it did when new after a year or so of pretty heavy fishing, so it will be interesting to see what it looks like when I open it up.
Re: Tatula Elite vs Steez A
If it's been run for 1 year and still smooth , I'd say it had some factory grease in it. Keep us posted.
Re: Tatula Elite vs Steez A
Chris,
A good option would be the Zillion SV. I had the Steex A's and have the Tatula Elite's. I prefer the Zillion SV to either one of these two. To me it casts better than either and is smoother on the retrieve.
A good option would be the Zillion SV. I had the Steex A's and have the Tatula Elite's. I prefer the Zillion SV to either one of these two. To me it casts better than either and is smoother on the retrieve.
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Re: Tatula Elite vs Steez A
The brand new zillion 10 sv tw or the model that's been out for a while?
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Do you guys think the tatula elite would be ok for frogs and heavy flipping/pitching or should I go for something like the new Zillion 10?
If rather get another elite based on price (or og zillion platform if I find a clean one for sale) but the new Zillion looks good too.
If rather get another elite based on price (or og zillion platform if I find a clean one for sale) but the new Zillion looks good too.
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Re: Tatula Elite vs Steez A
It will be fine. It’s the same reel as the pitch and flip version with a long cast spool and different knobs.chrisg_sdcf wrote: ↑Mon Apr 27, 2020 8:54 pmDo you guys think the tatula elite would be ok for frogs and heavy flipping/pitching or should I go for something like the new Zillion 10?
If rather get another elite based on price (or og zillion platform if I find a clean one for sale) but the new Zillion looks good too.
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What was not smooth about the Steez A? Did they lose their smoothness with use it were they just less smooth out if the box. Fears of a lack of smoothness and deteriorating smoothness have kept me away from the current gen Steez. I have a number of examples of the old gen and they can't keep up with my TD Zillions and Alphas in smoothness. They get gritty feeling with any use
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I can’t say the Steez were not smooth but for me the Zillion sv tw is buttery smooth. Maybe a grease issue. Not sure. I sold primarily due to liking the zillion ergonomics better
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Zillions have brass gears whereas Steezes (is that the right way to say more than one Steez? Lol) have aluminum/aluminum alloy gears which may also contribute to how the reel's retrieve may feel
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Re: Tatula Elite vs Steez A
Don't the tatula elites also have brass gears but also aluminum side plates? The side plates of the zillion sv tw are zaion right? Wouldn't aluminum frame and side plates with brass gears be preferable for heavier lures? (Kind of like how the new Zillion 10 went with metal side plates and the og zillions are all aluminum with brass gears).
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Zaion is a very stout material , with great lateral stiffness.chrisg_sdcf wrote: ↑Tue Apr 28, 2020 12:59 pmDon't the tatula elites also have brass gears but also aluminum side plates? The side plates of the zillion sv tw are zaion right? Wouldn't aluminum frame and side plates with brass gears be preferable for heavier lures? (Kind of like how the new Zillion 10 went with metal side plates and the og zillions are all aluminum with brass gears).
Re: Tatula Elite vs Steez A
It's great for sideplates if you don't mind the hollowness of it letting some noise and vibration from the gear train through. If you do then it is aluminum handle sideplate only from here on out.johnD wrote: ↑Tue Apr 28, 2020 6:08 pmZaion is a very stout material , with great lateral stiffness.chrisg_sdcf wrote: ↑Tue Apr 28, 2020 12:59 pmDon't the tatula elites also have brass gears but also aluminum side plates? The side plates of the zillion sv tw are zaion right? Wouldn't aluminum frame and side plates with brass gears be preferable for heavier lures? (Kind of like how the new Zillion 10 went with metal side plates and the og zillions are all aluminum with brass gears).
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Re: Tatula Elite vs Steez A
Doesn't bother me. Just thought it was for strength or preventing flex. Guess I could have gone a little cheaper than the elite if an aluminum side plate is mostly for noise dampening.LowRange wrote: ↑Tue Apr 28, 2020 6:52 pmIt's great for sideplates if you don't mind the hollowness of it letting some noise and vibration from the gear train through. If you do then it is aluminum handle sideplate only from here on out.johnD wrote: ↑Tue Apr 28, 2020 6:08 pmZaion is a very stout material , with great lateral stiffness.chrisg_sdcf wrote: ↑Tue Apr 28, 2020 12:59 pmDon't the tatula elites also have brass gears but also aluminum side plates? The side plates of the zillion sv tw are zaion right? Wouldn't aluminum frame and side plates with brass gears be preferable for heavier lures? (Kind of like how the new Zillion 10 went with metal side plates and the og zillions are all aluminum with brass gears).