When I was a framer we used to have to cover the steel skilsaws when we laid them down in the summer, or we couldn't pick them up because they were so hot.ska4fun wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 2:24 pmAnd I want polymer frames because I fish in a very hot region. I even burned my hand when caught my second reel wich was exposed to direct sun.Houndfish wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 1:42 pmNo, polymer framed handguns have metal rails embedded in the plastic that interface with the metal slide. It's not taking a ton of direct force but it's still impressive the roundcounts and heat they can withstand. People lost their minds about it when they first started becoming a market force and there a a million "glock 17 torture tests" if you want to read up on it.LowRange wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 11:18 amPlastic parts on firearms is limited to grips and accessories is it? No one is making plastic actions or barrels. Plastic drag stars and side plates are fine but I want my frame to be metal at the very least. I would prefer a metal drag star and dual side plates just to make the reel feel nice, solid and high end.
I like metal side plates a lot of the time but in the winter I want plastic 100% of the time. If I had a garage to pre-heat my reels in I might feel different.
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Try leaving you tool box drawer open in Iraq and letting that hot sun bake those tools. Ouch. To learn to close/cover real quick.
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Reel covers are an amazing thing....ska4fun wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 2:24 pmAnd I want polymer frames because I fish in a very hot region. I even burned my hand when caught my second reel wich was exposed to direct sun.Houndfish wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 1:42 pmNo, polymer framed handguns have metal rails embedded in the plastic that interface with the metal slide. It's not taking a ton of direct force but it's still impressive the roundcounts and heat they can withstand. People lost their minds about it when they first started becoming a market force and there a a million "glock 17 torture tests" if you want to read up on it.LowRange wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 11:18 amPlastic parts on firearms is limited to grips and accessories is it? No one is making plastic actions or barrels. Plastic drag stars and side plates are fine but I want my frame to be metal at the very least. I would prefer a metal drag star and dual side plates just to make the reel feel nice, solid and high end.
I like metal side plates a lot of the time but in the winter I want plastic 100% of the time. If I had a garage to pre-heat my reels in I might feel different.
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Well at least now you won't be burnt by a metal clutch return leg if you ever leave it out in the sun...
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I want to say Abu and a few other manufacturers offer titanium parts in larger sized models. I think the Revo Premier 30 I owned was the cutoff, the 40 size had a titanium main shaft or something, the other smaller sizes either had aluminum/brass/steel.
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Haha! Now I dont want any of them Shimano people knocking on Doyo!
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I don't see why would this be such a big deal for a company like shimano/daiwa. They could make em in low quantities for saltwater purposes only. If they become popular, extend from there. Not only is marketing Titanium teels "Our Ti reels are built like a tank" would be extremely easy (especially toward saltwater guys), but titanium itself isn't even expensive. This could be a good thing for Daiwa. Shimano has the "computer aka DC" inside their reels, while Daiwa has "Ti tanks". A Ryoga or a Millionaire in full titanium would be pretty hot.
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So it is still metal on metal. It's just plastic peices attached to metal functioning parts of the firearm. Sort of like plastic drag stars and side plates on reels?Houndfish wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 1:42 pmNo, polymer framed handguns have metal rails embedded in the plastic that interface with the metal slide. It's not taking a ton of direct force but it's still impressive the roundcounts and heat they can withstand. People lost their minds about it when they first started becoming a market force and there a a million "glock 17 torture tests" if you want to read up on it.LowRange wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 11:18 amPlastic parts on firearms is limited to grips and accessories is it? No one is making plastic actions or barrels. Plastic drag stars and side plates are fine but I want my frame to be metal at the very least. I would prefer a metal drag star and dual side plates just to make the reel feel nice, solid and high end.
I like metal side plates a lot of the time but in the winter I want plastic 100% of the time. If I had a garage to pre-heat my reels in I might feel different.
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I still wouldn't buy Doyo. But then again I wouldn't buy a reel with a plastic clutch return leg either.LgMouthGambler wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 7:29 amHaha! Now I dont want any of them Shimano people knocking on Doyo!
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Metal embedded in the plastic that takes the force of the shot. The plastic frame is legally the "firearm", with a metal plate with the SSN on it embedded in the plastic.
It's hard to overstate how much gun nerds lost their minds over plastic pistols. It turned out to be a lot of nothing so I am fairly unconcerned about what my fishing reels are made of, if they fail it's just a bummer, not a small bomb going off inches from my face.
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Just looks like a plastic grip to me. The firearms bits are still made like traditional firearms bits.
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I know, but it was a filthy bit bit european plastic trash and many teeth were gnashed and pearls clutched. It's why people moaning about "Plastic!" without talking about what the part is, the force it sees, and the type of plastic it even is makes my eyeball twitch. It's like the opposite of people getting super excited about "Carbon Fiber!" without asking the same questions.
I would take a reel made of Glock plastic, gearing and all, over one made entirely of Raven Arms pot metal any day of the week.
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With the firearm build it seems that the rails are embodied deeply and into the FRN* plastic while it's injection moulded around it to make it as secure as possible and whatever parts are attached to it as the rest.
Cycling heat through the barrel and the like and how much is absorbed into the grip etc is conducive to many factor's also, again coming from a non firearm society of fearful sissies...
When a gun is shot / cycled - there aren't any rotational cranking forces with gears in the mix. Now I could see an issue with a forearm such as a Dilon being made of composites and - for $100k there would be outcries.
Cycling heat through the barrel and the like and how much is absorbed into the grip etc is conducive to many factor's also, again coming from a non firearm society of fearful sissies...
When a gun is shot / cycled - there aren't any rotational cranking forces with gears in the mix. Now I could see an issue with a forearm such as a Dilon being made of composites and - for $100k there would be outcries.
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Yeah, when I was in the Army at Ft Irwin CA. Working in the desert in the mid day sun, I'd wear gloves to keep from getting burnt hands.
Thanks for the epiphany captain obvious