Braid causing gear wear?

[Slazmo]

No one forces anyone to buy anything and stuff that sucks does not sell.

Time will tell.

[Kurt L]

Thanks Dan I appreciate your insight, and I appreciate how well you and the service dept. have always made things right! While I might have had issues with some of the new products you guys have never let me down and I want to say thanks for that! Another big plus for me is being able to purchase parts from Shimano's website, that's a big deal for me being in Alaska!

Thanks, Kurt

[mark poulson]

This is why all my new high speed reels with be 7:1. That's plenty fast for me.

Me, too. I wonder how many pros who tout higher speed reels actually use them.

Probably all of them. They don't care how long a reel stays smooth. Most of the reels they are using aren't even what I would call smooth out of the box.

You're probably right.

[mark poulson]

I am one of the people who complained about aluminum gears feeling rough too soon.
Recently, I decided to go to left handed reels for punching, so I ordered three Quantum Icon reels, 7:1 gears. They have 11 bearings, and brass main and pinion gears. Plus they have strong brakes.
When I got the reels I opened them up to lube them, like I do all the new reels I get. While I had the first one open, I checked the brass main gear, and it was exactly the same size and cut as my old original Smoke 7:1 Burner reels. I think whoever made the Icon must have made the original 7:1 Burner reels, too, and used the same machining for both.
So I ordered a right hand 7:1 Icon main gear (it was only $5+-), and it dropped right into my Smoke reel. It turned a geary reel into a smooth as new reel. I left the old brass pinion gear in the Smoke, and it was smooth and silent anyway. It turned a 6.7 oz reel into a 7.2 oz. reel, but, as Bantam1 said, a half an ounce more weight is a small price to pay for having the smoothness and durability of a brass main gear.
I've since replaced all the aluminum main gears in my 8 other Smoke Burners with brass.
I also bought two Quantum Vapor 7:1 reels for half price on Ebay. I found that the aluminum main gear also matches the Icon gear, so I replaced those, too.
I wound up with great 11 bearing reels with brass gears that are smooth and throw great.

[LowRange]

My Banax 13 fishing reel with an aluminum gear buzzed right out of the box.

Both of my SS SVs buzz and so did my IS73 I bought used. It just the nature of aluminum gears. Maybe they are smooth out of the box but they will not stay as smooth as long as brass with similar use.

[Slazmo]

I don't know about what people think, but I'm pretty pumped to get this tomorrow...

Made from what seems to be bricks and mortar

[jmb27]

This kind of stuff will be even more common because of shimano's aggressive cost-cutting philosophy. They aren't interested in making reliable fishing tackle anymore,lowering product quality is lucrative, since the backlash from it still low.

Well, that strategy only works in the really short run. If that continues, they will have a big downtick in sales for sure.

Did you have problems with a particular Shimano model? I haven't experienced any
issues with the gearing personally.

[runmax08]

This is interesting! Being a Salmon fishing guy none of my Micro Module gears have held up well... I use light line as well nothing over 10lb test and I notice after sticking a hot fish that makes several hard runs or several in a row that smooth reel I started with has left the building... I have replaced more shimano gears in the last three to fours years than I have my entire 40 years on the water. I feel like I have to baby my Metaniums with nothing more than 8lb test or i'm buying new gears the next day. I wonder how the inshore guys are doing with them? I also wonder if there is way to harden or temper the gears to make them more durable? I have tried several very expensive brands of reels grease and I end up servicing my reels after each long day on the water trying to help them last.

Kurt

Why use " Micro Module gears" when fishing for salmon??

[Kurt L]

This is interesting! Being a Salmon fishing guy none of my Micro Module gears have held up well... I use light line as well nothing over 10lb test and I notice after sticking a hot fish that makes several hard runs or several in a row that smooth reel I started with has left the building... I have replaced more shimano gears in the last three to fours years than I have my entire 40 years on the water. I feel like I have to baby my Metaniums with nothing more than 8lb test or i'm buying new gears the next day. I wonder how the inshore guys are doing with them? I also wonder if there is way to harden or temper the gears to make them more durable? I have tried several very expensive brands of reels grease and I end up servicing my reels after each long day on the water trying to help them last.

Kurt

Why use " Micro Module gears" when fishing for salmon??

Because that's what's in the High end low profile reels... Once our King Salmon runs are over it's time for light tackle technics, and the Metanium and Steez work perfect for how I'm fishing using light line on light action steelhead rods from July to September. That combo equals lots of fun!

Kurt

[Slazmo]

Farm fresh... So much awesomeness! Not bad for $40.

Not overly fussed by the D7 ratio but whatever.

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About as smooth as my Curado 200i PG, slight gear vibration - may clear up with a good wash and new grease - all bearings work.

[Slazmo]

Cleaned up.

Showing the gears - after a light soak in some cleaner... No polishing and no trickery... These are the gears from that vintage Chronarch - used braid throughout its life.

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Just got to order 2 small parts and into circulation it goes.

That's old school durability through adversity... So how do I get these gears for my K?

[LowRange]

This is why all my new high speed reels with be 7:1. That's plenty fast for me.

I even get sketched out over 7:1 brass gears. I have a couple of 7:2 reels that got very rough soon after I bought them. I replaced the gears and the same thing happened again. I then put 6.2:1 gears in them and they stayed smoother over a longer period of time. After a season I did replace the gears though. 3 different times I ordered a Lews casting reel with 7.5:1 gears and they were rough from the start so I returned them.

I just returned a 7:1 Coastal SV TW. It made gear noise and had slight gear mesh sensation. Perfectly useable but not what I expect out of a $189 Daiwa aluminum frame and side plate brass geared reel. hopefully the new one is smooth and quiet or it is going back and I am getting a refund to move up to a higher end platform.

[doomtrprz71]

This is why all my new high speed reels with be 7:1. That's plenty fast for me.

I even get sketched out over 7:1 brass gears. I have a couple of 7:2 reels that got very rough soon after I bought them. I replaced the gears and the same thing happened again. I then put 6.2:1 gears in them and they stayed smoother over a longer period of time. After a season I did replace the gears though. 3 different times I ordered a Lews casting reel with 7.5:1 gears and they were rough from the start so I returned them.

I just returned a 7:1 Coastal SV TW. It made gear noise and had slight gear mesh sensation. Perfectly useable but not what I expect out of a $189 Daiwa aluminum frame and side plate brass geared reel. hopefully the new one is smooth and quiet or it is going back and I am getting a refund to move up to a higher end platform.

Mine is still smooth, most of my saltwater reels are 7.3, they have stayed smooth, my og tatula type r with 8.1 gears not so much but it has had a rough life. Hopefully the new one will be smooth, but I honestly question if the deep sv spool is worth it because my tw1516 outcasts it. My sv103 will outcast both but with the premium they bring it doesn't see salt anymore.

[LowRange]

This is why all my new high speed reels with be 7:1. That's plenty fast for me.

I even get sketched out over 7:1 brass gears. I have a couple of 7:2 reels that got very rough soon after I bought them. I replaced the gears and the same thing happened again. I then put 6.2:1 gears in them and they stayed smoother over a longer period of time. After a season I did replace the gears though. 3 different times I ordered a Lews casting reel with 7.5:1 gears and they were rough from the start so I returned them.

I just returned a 7:1 Coastal SV TW. It made gear noise and had slight gear mesh sensation. Perfectly useable but not what I expect out of a $189 Daiwa aluminum frame and side plate brass geared reel. hopefully the new one is smooth and quiet or it is going back and I am getting a refund to move up to a higher end platform.

Mine is still smooth, most of my saltwater reels are 7.3, they have stayed smooth, my og tatula type r with 8.1 gears not so much but it has had a rough life. Hopefully the new one will be smooth, but I honestly question if the deep sv spool is worth it because my tw1516 outcasts it. My sv103 will outcast both but with the premium they bring it doesn't see salt anymore.

The inductor is pretty deep on that Coastal SV spool. It is the exact same length and thickness as my Ray's Studio Long Cast spool for the old Tatulas and that thing bombs bait. The only difference is the Ray's has a stiffer spring. If I put an HLC spring in I can probably get similar performance I think.

[doomtrprz71]

This is why all my new high speed reels with be 7:1. That's plenty fast for me.

I even get sketched out over 7:1 brass gears. I have a couple of 7:2 reels that got very rough soon after I bought them. I replaced the gears and the same thing happened again. I then put 6.2:1 gears in them and they stayed smoother over a longer period of time. After a season I did replace the gears though. 3 different times I ordered a Lews casting reel with 7.5:1 gears and they were rough from the start so I returned them.

I just returned a 7:1 Coastal SV TW. It made gear noise and had slight gear mesh sensation. Perfectly useable but not what I expect out of a $189 Daiwa aluminum frame and side plate brass geared reel. hopefully the new one is smooth and quiet or it is going back and I am getting a refund to move up to a higher end platform.

Mine is still smooth, most of my saltwater reels are 7.3, they have stayed smooth, my og tatula type r with 8.1 gears not so much but it has had a rough life. Hopefully the new one will be smooth, but I honestly question if the deep sv spool is worth it because my tw1516 outcasts it. My sv103 will outcast both but with the premium they bring it doesn't see salt anymore.

The inductor is pretty deep on that Coastal SV spool. It is the exact same length and thickness as my Ray's Studio Long Cast spool for the old Tatulas and that thing bombs bait. The only difference is the Ray's has a stiffer spring. If I put an HLC spring in I can probably get similar performance I think.

I have 2 rays sv inductors on the way supposedly, tracking hasn't updated since 5/9 so who knows if I'll see them.