Braid causing gear wear?

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Braid causing gear wear?

Post by joekaz » Mon Jun 08, 2020 3:49 pm

My go to lure is always a bladed jig. I use them about 80% of the time. I sometimes have 4 rods rigged with bladed jigs. I Always fish them using braided line. Most of my other rods are rigged with braid also. It seems to me though that most of my reels become rough during the retrieve after just a few trips. All of my reels have brass gears. Even my Bantam MGL has become geary after about 5 or 6 trips. I am convinced that the braid along with the resistance of the bladed jig is causing my reels to wear out prematurely. The reels that have stayed the smoothest for me are my OG Zillions. What do you guys think?

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Re: Braid causing gear wear?

Post by rando » Mon Jun 08, 2020 4:20 pm

I do not see how braid would have an effect on gears, but I might be ignorant. Unless, it is causing more resistance. What gear ratio are you using?
Btw I hate fishing bladed jigs cuz I feel like it makes my gear and my bones rattle lol. Unfortunetely last 3 out of 3 orders from JLS they threw in jackhammer gift...
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Re: Braid causing gear wear?

Post by Slazmo » Mon Jun 08, 2020 4:30 pm

Quick comparison between the years and the gear types.

Make your own opinions.
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Re: Braid causing gear wear?

Post by joekaz » Mon Jun 08, 2020 4:40 pm

rando wrote:
Mon Jun 08, 2020 4:20 pm
I do not see how braid would have an effect on gears, but I might be ignorant. Unless it is causing more resistance. What gear ratio are you using?
Btw I hate fishing bladed jigs cuz I feel like it makes my gear and my bones rattle lol. Unfortunetely last 3 out of 3 orders from JLS they threw in jackhammer gift...
Most of my bladed jig reels are 6.2:1. Normally lower gear ratios are smoother. Maybe the wear is from all the fish I catch. :D

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Re: Braid causing gear wear?

Post by rando » Mon Jun 08, 2020 4:42 pm

joekaz wrote:
Mon Jun 08, 2020 4:40 pm
rando wrote:
Mon Jun 08, 2020 4:20 pm
I do not see how braid would have an effect on gears, but I might be ignorant. Unless it is causing more resistance. What gear ratio are you using?
Btw I hate fishing bladed jigs cuz I feel like it makes my gear and my bones rattle lol. Unfortunetely last 3 out of 3 orders from JLS they threw in jackhammer gift...
Most of my bladed jig reels are 6.2:1. Normally lower gear ratios are smoother. Maybe the wear is from all the fish I catch. :D
Well there you go, better stop catching them if you want you to stay smooth :mrgreen:

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Re: Braid causing gear wear?

Post by joekaz » Mon Jun 08, 2020 4:49 pm

rando wrote:
Mon Jun 08, 2020 4:42 pm
joekaz wrote:
Mon Jun 08, 2020 4:40 pm
rando wrote:
Mon Jun 08, 2020 4:20 pm
I do not see how braid would have an effect on gears, but I might be ignorant. Unless it is causing more resistance. What gear ratio are you using?
Btw I hate fishing bladed jigs cuz I feel like it makes my gear and my bones rattle lol. Unfortunetely last 3 out of 3 orders from JLS they threw in jackhammer gift...
Most of my bladed jig reels are 6.2:1. Normally lower gear ratios are smoother. Maybe the wear is from all the fish I catch. :D
Well there you go, better stop catching them if you want you to stay smooth :mrgreen:
But then I would want to spend more time with my wife. :^o

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Re: Braid causing gear wear?

Post by mark poulson » Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:03 pm

joekaz wrote:
Mon Jun 08, 2020 4:49 pm
rando wrote:
Mon Jun 08, 2020 4:42 pm
joekaz wrote:
Mon Jun 08, 2020 4:40 pm
rando wrote:
Mon Jun 08, 2020 4:20 pm
I do not see how braid would have an effect on gears, but I might be ignorant. Unless it is causing more resistance. What gear ratio are you using?
Btw I hate fishing bladed jigs cuz I feel like it makes my gear and my bones rattle lol. Unfortunetely last 3 out of 3 orders from JLS they threw in jackhammer gift...
Most of my bladed jig reels are 6.2:1. Normally lower gear ratios are smoother. Maybe the wear is from all the fish I catch. :D
Well there you go, better stop catching them if you want you to stay smooth :mrgreen:
But then I would want to spend more time with my wife. :^o
:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Braid causing gear wear?

Post by BigG » Fri Jun 12, 2020 9:16 am

rando wrote:
Mon Jun 08, 2020 4:20 pm
I do not see how braid would have an effect on gears, but I might be ignorant. Unless, it is causing more resistance. What gear ratio are you using?
Btw I hate fishing bladed jigs cuz I feel like it makes my gear and my bones rattle lol. Unfortunetely last 3 out of 3 orders from JLS they threw in jackhammer gift...
I am ignorant, I don't see it either. The pull on retrieve is the same with any line, unless you're pulling up logs. :lol:

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Re: Braid causing gear wear?

Post by toddmc » Fri Jun 12, 2020 9:24 am

The OG TD Zillion family of reels is the most durable baitcasting reel series ever made in my opinion. I just don't think that the new micromesh style gears, whatever brand, hold a candle when it comes to durability. All of the complaints about newer Shimano gears on here should give consumers a clue as to what expect in terms of durability. I don't know how Shimano keeps up with the replacements.

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Re: Braid causing gear wear?

Post by Slazmo » Fri Jun 12, 2020 2:21 pm

toddmc wrote:
Fri Jun 12, 2020 9:24 am
All of the complaints about newer Shimano gears on here should give consumers a clue as to what expect in terms of durability.
I'm not looking for posts about MM gears being replaced but that's screen shots from just this year alone from one guy mainly...

I just want HEG gears back... So badly...
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Re: Braid causing gear wear?

Post by Kurt L » Sat Jun 13, 2020 2:03 pm

This is interesting! Being a Salmon fishing guy none of my Micro Module gears have held up well... I use light line as well nothing over 10lb test and I notice after sticking a hot fish that makes several hard runs or several in a row that smooth reel I started with has left the building... I have replaced more shimano gears in the last three to fours years than I have my entire 40 years on the water. I feel like I have to baby my Metaniums with nothing more than 8lb test or i'm buying new gears the next day. I wonder how the inshore guys are doing with them? I also wonder if there is way to harden or temper the gears to make them more durable? I have tried several very expensive brands of reels grease and I end up servicing my reels after each long day on the water trying to help them last.

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Re: Braid causing gear wear?

Post by Slazmo » Sat Jun 13, 2020 5:34 pm

Already brought it up with a few people both over there in the US and Australia...

See how it pans out..

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Re: Braid causing gear wear?

Post by Slazmo » Sat Jun 13, 2020 9:31 pm

Well Daiwa has their own MM gears but haven't heard anything yet, a friend has 2 Ryoga's with them and no issues yet? And I mean targets big Murray Cod over a meter on huge surface baits.

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Re: Braid causing gear wear?

Post by LowRange » Sun Jun 14, 2020 6:47 am

This is why all my new high speed reels with be 7:1. That's plenty fast for me.

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Re: Braid causing gear wear?

Post by mark poulson » Sun Jun 14, 2020 8:38 am

LowRange wrote:
Sun Jun 14, 2020 6:47 am
This is why all my new high speed reels with be 7:1. That's plenty fast for me.
Me, too. I wonder how many pros who tout higher speed reels actually use them.

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