Zillion sv TW 1000

[DirtyD64]

I have always liked the little metal/aluminum colored lock plate better than the plastic. Wonder if you could replace it how with an older style? A gunmetal or silver color would look great with the new sleeker metallic Zillion and Alphas look.

[Hogsticker2]

Just like the Alphas TW, the black plastic piece on the handle side plate it killing it for me. Reminds me of $99 reels.

I can't remember off the top of my head if they are plastic or not, but it's the same style retainer that Shimano uses for the Metanium MGL and Metanium B. The metal clip that Daiwa uses on the Steez is classier, but not a deal breaker for myself.

I really like the Metanium B at its price point and will be watching the reports on how this reel performs. I have all of the current variants of Steezs and like the CT the best, but I don't think it's worth the $150-200 more than what I can get the Metanium B for.

I think he might be referring to the engine cover. If so, I completely agree. It doesn't exactly scream high end. If he's just referring to the nut retainer, easy swap.

[HobeyBaker]

Just like the Alphas TW, the black plastic piece on the handle side plate it killing it for me. Reminds me of $99 reels.

I can't remember off the top of my head if they are plastic or not, but it's the same style retainer that Shimano uses for the Metanium MGL and Metanium B. The metal clip that Daiwa uses on the Steez is classier, but not a deal breaker for myself.

I really like the Metanium B at its price point and will be watching the reports on how this reel performs. I have all of the current variants of Steezs and like the CT the best, but I don't think it's worth the $150-200 more than what I can get the Metanium B for.

I think he might be referring to the engine cover. If so, I completely agree. It doesn't exactly scream high end. If he's just referring to the nut retainer, easy swap.

I read the article after I posted and I think you’re right. The article says the side is resin (Zaion?) to save weight. I’m not sure why they didn’t go with aluminum and have it weigh a little more. Probably a cost savings measure.

[Hogsticker2]

Just like the Alphas TW, the black plastic piece on the handle side plate it killing it for me. Reminds me of $99 reels.

I can't remember off the top of my head if they are plastic or not, but it's the same style retainer that Shimano uses for the Metanium MGL and Metanium B. The metal clip that Daiwa uses on the Steez is classier, but not a deal breaker for myself.

I really like the Metanium B at its price point and will be watching the reports on how this reel performs. I have all of the current variants of Steezs and like the CT the best, but I don't think it's worth the $150-200 more than what I can get the Metanium B for.

I think he might be referring to the engine cover. If so, I completely agree. It doesn't exactly scream high end. If he's just referring to the nut retainer, easy swap.

I read the article after I posted and I think you’re right. The article says the side is resin (Zaion?) to save weight. I’m not sure why they didn’t go with aluminum and have it weigh a little more. Probably a cost savings measure.

It looks dull and a bit cheap. Not very Daiwa like.

[SSS]

Just like the Alphas TW, the black plastic piece on the handle side plate it killing it for me. Reminds me of $99 reels.

I can't remember off the top of my head if they are plastic or not, but it's the same style retainer that Shimano uses for the Metanium MGL and Metanium B. The metal clip that Daiwa uses on the Steez is classier, but not a deal breaker for myself.

I really like the Metanium B at its price point and will be watching the reports on how this reel performs. I have all of the current variants of Steezs and like the CT the best, but I don't think it's worth the $150-200 more than what I can get the Metanium B for.

I think he might be referring to the engine cover. If so, I completely agree. It doesn't exactly scream high end. If he's just referring to the nut retainer, easy swap.

I read the article after I posted and I think you’re right. The article says the side is resin (Zaion?) to save weight. I’m not sure why they didn’t go with aluminum and have it weigh a little more. Probably a cost savings measure.

It looks dull and a bit cheap. Not very Daiwa like.

Was referring to the engine cover. Just look at how sharp it looks on a Steez (old or new), which is made out of metal, then look at what's on the Alphas TW and the new Zillion. And how is it that the older 2015 made in Thialand Zillion's had such a good looking engine cover all made out of metal, and now we're getting this Black Max levels of ugliness? Talk about a downgrade.

[RMCatchNrelease]

I can't remember off the top of my head if they are plastic or not, but it's the same style retainer that Shimano uses for the Metanium MGL and Metanium B. The metal clip that Daiwa uses on the Steez is classier, but not a deal breaker for myself.

I really like the Metanium B at its price point and will be watching the reports on how this reel performs. I have all of the current variants of Steezs and like the CT the best, but I don't think it's worth the $150-200 more than what I can get the Metanium B for.

I think he might be referring to the engine cover. If so, I completely agree. It doesn't exactly scream high end. If he's just referring to the nut retainer, easy swap.

I read the article after I posted and I think you’re right. The article says the side is resin (Zaion?) to save weight. I’m not sure why they didn’t go with aluminum and have it weigh a little more. Probably a cost savings measure.

It looks dull and a bit cheap. Not very Daiwa like.

Was referring to the engine cover. Just look at how sharp it looks on a Steez (old or new), which is made out of metal, then look at what's on the Alphas TW and the new Zillion. And how is it that the older 2015 made in Thialand Zillion's had such a good looking engine cover all made out of metal, and now we're getting this Black Max levels of ugliness? Talk about a downgrade.

It certainly is disheartening. There seems to be no character or fun put into these reels. I know they are essentially tools, but why can't we have both.

A zillion with no bumpers or color coding makes me sad. I think the black engine cover and cheap handle nut/cover is worse.

It seems I love Daiwa more they do.

I'd be so stoked to be bring the famed Zillion back to Japan. Why not highlight that in the design? I'm not well versed in Japanese culture but I'm sure there are some design or color based elements that could signify something special.

They put a stupid spider on a $150 reel. Why not a cool Daruma doll logo? Imagine one of these guys faintly ghosted on the side plate.

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What drew me into Daiwa was the coolness an style of the JDM. This all silver and black doesn't do it for me.

[HobeyBaker]

I have to imagine that they are trying to compete with the new Metanium with this reel. Hard to compete with that reel if it’s not priced accordingly and not made in Japan.

[Fjordblue]

Steez ltd and new zillion have different spools. Spool off ltd is lighter due to porting and slightly different braking rotor. Steez ltd spool 13 gram.zillion 13.4some grams.

All spools are interchangeable with previous platform.

[Gone Phishin]

The southpaw models are in stock at Japan Tackle. All of the new Steez models are in stock, and all of the new Alphas models are minus the lefty 8.1:1.

[Hogsticker2]

Steez ltd and new zillion have different spools. Spool off ltd is lighter due to porting and slightly different braking rotor. Steez ltd spool 13 gram.zillion 13.4some grams.

All spools are interchangeable with previous platform.

All spools are interchangeable with previous models? Can you elaborate? Do you mean all 34mm platforms? Have you used these new dual spring spools in previous reels?

[Fjordblue]

I don’t own any off the new platforms. Probably will wait until I can try one with my own hands.
Saw on ktf site that they Advice there 34 mm spools to be used in new zillion and Steez ltd.

[Fjordblue]

Video off Steez ltd spool in 16 Steez Sv tw.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XYZYTf_kAlI

[Jbc88]

Oh man!! My zillion just came in today and i could tell you guys that you wont be disappointed. Its alot smoother and better with the new zillion. I also have the previous steezs as well and i got to say, this new zillion is par with them or even better. You can really tell a difference with this new sv boost spool. Oh yeah and it has the clicking drag feature!

[Jbc88]

I have to imagine that they are trying to compete with the new Metanium with this reel. Hard to compete with that reel if it’s not priced accordingly and not made in Japan.

Mine just came in today and it is made in japan
I did have the 20 metanium but sold it to get this one lol and i can say that you wont be disappointed with this new zillion. This new zillion is smoother and has more of a solid feel. I will be getting more of them with the lower and higher gear ratios. Also has a nice drag clicker

[CFDoc]

Mine just came in today and it is made in japan
I did have the 20 metanium but sold it to get this one lol and i can say that you wont be disappointed with this new zillion. This new zillion is smoother and has more of a solid feel. I will be getting more of them with the lower and higher gear ratios. Also has a nice drag clicker

How does it feel size wise to the Met?

I have Mets too but may get rid of them if this thing is as compact as a SLP and fixes the issues I have with the Met.