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Chronarch MGL

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:01 pm
by gambler2100
Is Shimano discontinuing the Chronarch model? Can't find any information on a successor to the Chronarch MGL. Even the Shimano Japan site doesn't mention it. Does anyone know?

Re: Chronarch MGL

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 6:26 pm
by slipperybob
supply issue???

Re: Chronarch MGL

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2021 6:53 am
by DirtyD64
Not sure. I still have an HG... Are you looking to buy one?

I still like mine, I don't think it isn't smooth like some have said, just has a buzzy feeling while retrieving. Other than that it casts great still, I would love to see a successor to it...

Maybe a Chronarch MGL 50? Like a carbon composite bodied brass micro module geared miniaturized version?

Re: Chronarch MGL

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2021 10:13 am
by LowRange
No plastic bodies on reels greater than $60 please. Make it a higher end compact aluminum frame 70 reel to slot between the curado 70 and Met

Re: Chronarch MGL

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2021 7:54 pm
by gambler2100
DirtyD64 wrote:
Tue Apr 13, 2021 6:53 am
Not sure. I still have an HG... Are you looking to buy one?

I still like mine, I don't think it isn't smooth like some have said, just has a buzzy feeling while retrieving. Other than that it casts great still, I would love to see a successor to it...

Maybe a Chronarch MGL 50? Like a carbon composite bodied brass micro module geared miniaturized version?
I purchased the 150 MGL last year. Great reel; smooth, light, no buzzy feeling. It was made in Japan however so it probably uses some different parts . . . .

Re: Chronarch MGL

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 5:59 am
by LowRange
gambler2100 wrote:
Tue Apr 13, 2021 7:54 pm
DirtyD64 wrote:
Tue Apr 13, 2021 6:53 am
Not sure. I still have an HG... Are you looking to buy one?

I still like mine, I don't think it isn't smooth like some have said, just has a buzzy feeling while retrieving. Other than that it casts great still, I would love to see a successor to it...

Maybe a Chronarch MGL 50? Like a carbon composite bodied brass micro module geared miniaturized version?
I purchased the 150 MGL last year. Great reel; smooth, light, no buzzy feeling. It was made in Japan however so it probably uses some different parts . . . .
It takes some time and use to develop the gear buzz. Not sure if this is a gear issue or the plastic frame is to blame or a combo of both.

Re: Chronarch MGL

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:25 am
by joekaz
LowRange wrote:
Wed Apr 14, 2021 5:59 am
gambler2100 wrote:
Tue Apr 13, 2021 7:54 pm
DirtyD64 wrote:
Tue Apr 13, 2021 6:53 am
Not sure. I still have an HG... Are you looking to buy one?

I still like mine, I don't think it isn't smooth like some have said, just has a buzzy feeling while retrieving. Other than that it casts great still, I would love to see a successor to it...

Maybe a Chronarch MGL 50? Like a carbon composite bodied brass micro module geared miniaturized version?
I purchased the 150 MGL last year. Great reel; smooth, light, no buzzy feeling. It was made in Japan however so it probably uses some different parts . . . .
It takes some time and use to develop the gear buzz. Not sure if this is a gear issue or the plastic frame is to place or a combo of both.
My Bantam has a big time buzz that I can feel even when I am using a Jackhammer bladed jig. It started getting buzzy after just a few trips. My Curado 71 MGL has developed a slight buzz after just 2 trips.

Re: Chronarch MGL

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 10:55 am
by ss30378
MM gears and me don’t get along very well. Most of my MM reels have gotten buzzy very quickly.

I usually add a bit of ace-2 grease to the gears before use since that’s what’s recommended by shimano but it hasn’t helped in my experience. Maybe there’s a better grease option to protect the delicate gears?

Sucks too because MM gears feel fantastic when new.

Re: Chronarch MGL

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 11:42 am
by LowRange
DirtyD64 wrote:
Tue Apr 13, 2021 6:53 am
Not sure. I still have an HG... Are you looking to buy one?

I still like mine, I don't think it isn't smooth like some have said, just has a buzzy feeling while retrieving. Other than that it casts great still, I would love to see a successor to it...

Maybe a Chronarch MGL 50? Like a carbon composite bodied brass micro module geared miniaturized version?
Buzzy feeling and not smooth are the same thing to some. I'm one of them. If gear mesh is felt then the reel is not smooth. Mounting the reel to a rod can dampen this significantly though.

Re: Chronarch MGL

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:10 am
by DirtyD64
LowRange wrote:
Wed Apr 14, 2021 11:42 am
DirtyD64 wrote:
Tue Apr 13, 2021 6:53 am
Not sure. I still have an HG... Are you looking to buy one?

I still like mine, I don't think it isn't smooth like some have said, just has a buzzy feeling while retrieving. Other than that it casts great still, I would love to see a successor to it...

Maybe a Chronarch MGL 50? Like a carbon composite bodied brass micro module geared miniaturized version?
Buzzy feeling and not smooth are the same thing to some. I'm one of them. If gear mesh is felt then the reel is not smooth. Mounting the reel to a rod can dampen this significantly though.
This is what I wanted to convey. It isn't rough, just a meshed/hum when retrieving. It did not do it straight from the box however, it developed after 2 seasons. Honestly when I used it with a medium powered rod it didn't either. It was once I went to 14lb w/ a 7'6"MH and began dragging heavy football jigs and flipping brush. Again though, it still retrieves fine, just has an odd hum to the gears. I for this reason have no fear of certain aluminum gears, especially in the Steez A. That is by far my smoothest and most resilient reel.

Re: Chronarch MGL

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 8:44 am
by Jeffbro999
This sounds like a Xship bearing(could also be pinion but it would always make noise) issue with the way you described it. Louder buzz when more load is put on the bearing from using bigger baits. Cheap easy fix if that’s the case.

Re: Chronarch MGL

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 9:31 pm
by gambler2100
Great information guys BUT back to my original question: is the Chronarch MGL finished?

Re: Chronarch MGL

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 5:17 am
by LowRange
You can also grease the gears with cals and if that provides temporary relief from the buzz then it is certainly gear related.

Re: Chronarch MGL

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:55 am
by ss30378
gambler2100 wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 9:31 pm
Great information guys BUT back to my original question: is the Chronarch MGL finished?
With it being gone on the shimano Japan site then it probably means it will be either revamped or discontinued. Maybe we will get the vanchevy to go along with the stradic rename of vanford. The US site still shows it as part of the lineup and TW is showing a restock anywhere from this month to August depending on model so its a bit difficult to tell at the moment.

I'd probably go over to the shimano support forum and ask Bantam1 if he has any info...

Re: Chronarch MGL

Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2021 8:20 am
by johnD
LowRange wrote:
Tue Apr 13, 2021 10:13 am
No plastic bodies on reels greater than $60 please. Make it a higher end compact aluminum frame 70 reel to slot between the curado 70 and Met
ditto. Chornarch mgl was the worst $300 I ever spent.