Berkley NanoFil
- BRONZEBACK29
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Berkley NanoFil
What do you guys think of this new line?
http://www.berkley-fishing.com/line/nan ... JP-40EI-v1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-FT7t7t ... r_embedded
http://www.berkley-fishing.com/line/nan ... JP-40EI-v1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-FT7t7t ... r_embedded
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Re: Berkley NanoFil
1. I don't think it is clear. It's Dyneema - it ain't clear.
2. Uni...mono...What is the difference?! Extruded vs fused? Come one now...
3. "50% casting distance increase over monos of equivalent breaking strength"...of course...its Dyneema. I'm pretty sure equivalent diameters will cast the same.
Marketing fluff...
2. Uni...mono...What is the difference?! Extruded vs fused? Come one now...
3. "50% casting distance increase over monos of equivalent breaking strength"...of course...its Dyneema. I'm pretty sure equivalent diameters will cast the same.
Marketing fluff...
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Re: Berkley NanoFil
Berkley may make some decent, well known monos for a very fair price and who knows with this one what to expect but my biggest gripe with berkley is the "berkley vanish" fluorocarbon. The only thing that vanishes when using this line is the fish on the end of it or your tackle...right to the bottom of the lake. I had so many problems with this garbage breaking on me and i couldnt figure it out for the life of me but i have seen others comment negatively on this line so i know it is not just me. Berkley should be embarrassed to sell this product and i will never let it go anywhere near my tackle ever again. i guess you get what you pay for.....cheap fluorocarbon is not something you can get away with....i learned this thanks to berkley and their vanish product. i know i am off topic here but i just wanted to take a chance to take a shot at this lousy berkley product. thx for bearing with me.
- ecu daniel 14
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Re: Berkley NanoFil
I pretty much agree with Toku on this one. This is yet another one of Pure Fishing's excellent marketing to dumbass fishermen who shop at walmart for fishing supplies.
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Re: Berkley NanoFil
I'm going to take a guess at it...I hated the original and would bet I wouldn't like this either.
Original fireline was kind of a flat ribbon of fused fibers. The dyneema fiber in this line appears to be of a smaller diameter, hence the "nano." Fuse those fibers in a round shape and you get this. Who knows how they achieve this "molecular bonding" of the fiber as they claim, I'm no chemist, but I am skeptical of this.
Without a solvent to dissolve, or heat to bond them...and if using either, wouldn't that affect the properties given to the raw fiber in being gel spun? Using a bonding agent wouldn't create what I would call a molecular bond.
I have always wondered what limits the size of these types of high modulus polyethylene fibers. For instance, rather than trying to "fuse" 100s of "nano" fibers together to make a "uni-filament" fishing line, why not draw a larger diameter fiber from the start? Maybe it's cost or technology, or maybe a solid .01" fiber is way too stiff. Just always been curious about that.
Sorry to get off topic and all technical about it.
Original fireline was kind of a flat ribbon of fused fibers. The dyneema fiber in this line appears to be of a smaller diameter, hence the "nano." Fuse those fibers in a round shape and you get this. Who knows how they achieve this "molecular bonding" of the fiber as they claim, I'm no chemist, but I am skeptical of this.
Without a solvent to dissolve, or heat to bond them...and if using either, wouldn't that affect the properties given to the raw fiber in being gel spun? Using a bonding agent wouldn't create what I would call a molecular bond.
I have always wondered what limits the size of these types of high modulus polyethylene fibers. For instance, rather than trying to "fuse" 100s of "nano" fibers together to make a "uni-filament" fishing line, why not draw a larger diameter fiber from the start? Maybe it's cost or technology, or maybe a solid .01" fiber is way too stiff. Just always been curious about that.
Sorry to get off topic and all technical about it.
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Re: Berkley NanoFil
MDisbrow... I suspect using a larger quantity of smaller diameter fibers in a bundle will achieve a rounder and smoother bundle. Although I'm not convinced that "rounder" and "smoother" catches more fish, it does seem to be what all the chatter on these forums is about.
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Re: Berkley NanoFil
Interesting for sure. I will most likely buy at least one spool. Not sure if it is going to be that much better. Nano tech seems like a lot of hype.
Re: Berkley NanoFil
"Out of the water it is clear and opaque"
These two adjectives are at entirely different ends of the spectrum; so which is it? Line just looks white to me....
These two adjectives are at entirely different ends of the spectrum; so which is it? Line just looks white to me....
Re: Berkley NanoFil
Agreed. If that wasn't ad libbing by Pennaz, but Berkley's lingo, then Berkley seems to be continuing to bastardize language to try to make "crystal" and "clear"--and next, I suppose, "crystal clear"--mean opaque white.tywithay wrote:"Out of the water it is clear and opaque"
These two adjectives are at entirely different ends of the spectrum; so which is it? Line just looks white to me....
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Re: Berkley NanoFil
When I look through a screen door I don't see the screen, only what's beyond. I'd guess that if the line were thin enough bass wouldn't notice it but only what was beyond as the screen door. This is probably true for virtually every line... diameter is a key ingredient in visibility.
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Re: Berkley NanoFil
Yes there's no doubt about that. I'm curious about how they actually have bonded these fibers together.OkobojiEagle wrote:MDisbrow... I suspect using a larger quantity of smaller diameter fibers in a bundle will achieve a rounder and smoother bundle.
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Re: Berkley NanoFil
And how many screen doors have you walked through? You might see through it, but you still know it's there.OkobojiEagle wrote:When I look through a screen door I don't see the screen, only what's beyond. I'd guess that if the line were thin enough bass wouldn't notice it but only what was beyond as the screen door. This is probably true for virtually every line... diameter is a key ingredient in visibility.
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Re: Berkley NanoFil
More than a couple in my first 55 years. I'm beginning to understand that the door frame may be part of the equation.cst wrote:And how many screen doors have you walked through?
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Re: Berkley NanoFil
Well call me a dumbsh!t, but I remember sprinting right through a 3-wire electric fence when I was a kid I must've saw right through it... ran into it, flipped over it tangled in all three wires getting shocked to hell
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