I use 4-8lb test for my leaders, so abrasion resistance hasn't been a huge factor; my leaders usually break off long before they can become too abraded for use, because when I get snagged I usually can't bend the hook out due to the light lb test. Haven't had a failure yet that I could attribute directly to abrasion, and haven't had any breakages while fighting fish yet.
So far I've only disliked one fluoro for leader usage, and that's Yo-Zuri Top Knot. Not sure if I got a bad spool or something, but its knot performance was subpar compared to Seaguar Blue Label (both at 8lb test), and even worse than Berkley Vanish (not leader specific, but still) at 6lb test and Redwing Phantom at 5.6lb test. I'm guessing Top Knot formula might be better suited for larger lb tests, but I wasn't happy with it in 8lb. It is by far the stiffest/hardest feeling of the handful I've tried, so I imagine the abrasion resistance might be great at higher lb tests, but in my experience it doesn't do me any good when the knots broke so easily with 8lb.
Hopefully J-Fluoro performs on-par with the others and not Top Knot. If it does, it'll probably become my new go-to, because it's 1/3 of the price per yard compared to Blue Label, and it far and away has the best line keeping system. I haven't seen anything to indicate whether it is precision wound or not, but if it is, that would really be icing on the cake.
Good to hear those initial impressions, sounds like it might be right up my alley! Is it precision wound by chance? Haven't seen any documentation of whether it is or not.doomtrprz71 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 17, 2019 12:20 pmCouple things I noticed spooling up for next week, the diameter of the jfluoro is thinner than blue label and it is considerably more supple. I love the fact that for 20lb it comes in a 100yd spool vs 25 for blue label. The jfluoro is much slicker as well, I messed around scuffing up the two and it appeared that the jfluoro was a little more abrasion resistant due to it's slickness. That's my only concern, is with it being more supple, will it not be abrasion resistant enough when its a fish with teeth and not something being scraped down it.
We did some testing over the past couple weeks, the line offers excellent diameters, a good hard finish for abrasion resistance, with break strength within reason. Compared to AFW, Sunline, Yo-Zuri and Seaguar's Blue Label FL products we are seeing a slight drop in actual breaking test for Daiwa's FL line. For example, using 40# as a reference, Daiwa's J-Fluoro scored 37 lbs with a full 5 inches of stretch prior to breaking. AFW averaged 42 lbs with 4.5" stretch, Yo-Zuri TopKnot came in at 44 lbs with a 4.25" stretch. Daiwa's diameters are smaller, in some instances substantially thinner than other suppliers tested. This is a major point, similar to comparing Seaguar's Premier verses their Blue Label product. The skinnier lines tend to break earlier - as one would suspect. We will do more testing, more sampling of spools, and then publish all our findings. Preliminary testing suggests Daiwa's line will test slightly under spec, but also offer greater stretch than other manufacturers. So, there are some particular applications where this may be a line of preferred use.
This is a 100% Fluorocarbon product, Japanese made quality, it will do what Fluorocarbon is supposed to do, be less visible in the water, and it will do so at a very aggressive cost. Now, Daiwa makes a lot of things, however this line is being produced by another manufacturer, no doubt. I'll lay odds that Sunline is making this product, has some similar characteristics to what we've stocked from them. (Sunline's primary business in the US market is that of an OEM producer, making lines for other firms to stamp their name on). Sunline makes a great product, as many of you well know. Daiwa's FL line will be a wonderful addition to their range of products, and a welcome relief to anglers given the quality and cost calculation.