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Yak help... Questions

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2023 5:18 pm
by Hogsticker2
Hey guys. It's been a while since I've looked at kayaks. What are the widest options on the market today? I've been looking, and it seems that the Native Titan 13.5 is the widest, is this true? Last time I looked, 3 Waters and Feel Free had some big ones, but it looks like new models have gotten slimmer.
Are there other one man pedal drive platforms out there? Any options that ride on pontoons? I remembered looking at one that was essentially a floating dock with a pedal drive, but I don't recall the name. I'm after supreme stability, or as stable as this type of boat can get, plus a pedal drive. I'd like to have maximum deck space with rod holders. I'm not interested in any canoes atm. Don't need to move quickly, but I'd like a decent turning radiance. Hopefully there are options outside of Hobie.

Re: Yak help... Questions

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2023 8:39 am
by Jeffbro999
The top of the line kayaks from each company will be very stable. Native Titan and Slayer, Hobie Pro Angler, Old Town Predator/Bigwater PDL are the big 3 that are quality kayaks. I went with the Old Town because of the warranty, lifetime on the hull and 5 years on the drive is leading the industry. At 36” wide(pro angler is 38”)you’d have to work pretty hard to flip or fall out of it. More stable than a bass boat. I sightfish a lot standing on the seat, no issues getting up or down.

One thing that’s nice for bass fishing is that you can mount a ninja grass blade on the PDL drive just like a trolling motor and it works perfectly. Doesn’t seem to work on other drives. PDL drive is regarded as best on the market right now. Pretty much bulletproof, fast, very smooth and quiet.

Re: Yak help... Questions

Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2023 5:05 am
by NormanD
I have a PA14 and have no experience with this boat, but Blue Sky Boatworks is a pontoon style peddle drive boat.

Re: Yak help... Questions

Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2023 7:50 pm
by MRQturbo
I went with an oldtown autopilot 120... Spot lock sold me... It's the best fishing kayak IMO..

Re: Yak help... Questions

Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2023 3:18 pm
by Hogsticker2
Think I'm going to splurge and go with the new Titan Propel X 12.5 when it releases.

Re: Yak help... Questions

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 11:09 am
by John2204
If I was going for a stable kayak I would get something with a trolling motor, or one that can use a motor as a later upgrade, I am a big fan of nucanoe, take a look at the pursuit, it’s a great fishing kayak that can be peddled or add a motor to it

Re: Yak help... Questions

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 11:47 am
by Jeffbro999
Hogsticker2 wrote:
Tue Aug 01, 2023 3:18 pm
Think I'm going to splurge and go with the new Titan Propel X 12.5 when it releases.
Can’t go wrong there, looks like a well thought out kayak with some good upgrades from the original.

Re: Yak help... Questions

Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2023 1:41 pm
by Hogsticker2
Okay guys and gals. I've narrowed it down to these two choices -
Native Titan Propel X 12.5
Feelfree Dorado 12.5 V2

Any thoughts, opinions or user reviews?

Re: Yak help... Questions

Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2023 9:24 am
by Jeffbro999
I’d go with the Native for sure. One big advantage of the Native is the drive is simple and they have instructions/videos on how to take it apart and service/repair it. Not the fastest, but good quality. Also have upgrades to just about everything including the rudder.
Really never hear anything about FeelFree so I don’t think many are buying them. Seat looks comfortable though ;)

Re: Yak help... Questions

Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2023 11:56 am
by Hogsticker2
Jeffbro999 wrote:
Mon Sep 04, 2023 9:24 am
I’d go with the Native for sure. One big advantage of the Native is the drive is simple and they have instructions/videos on how to take it apart and service/repair it. Not the fastest, but good quality. Also have upgrades to just about everything including the rudder.
Really never hear anything about FeelFree so I don’t think many are buying them. Seat looks comfortable though ;)
Thanks! The one thing I'm getting hung up on with the Feelfree is that awesome, removable battery box. I also like that it has side rails - something I haven't seen on other yaks. I really like the 360 swivel seat on the new Titan.

Re: Yak help... Questions

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2023 3:22 pm
by Drakestar
Hogsticker2 wrote:
Tue Sep 05, 2023 11:56 am
Jeffbro999 wrote:
Mon Sep 04, 2023 9:24 am
I’d go with the Native for sure. One big advantage of the Native is the drive is simple and they have instructions/videos on how to take it apart and service/repair it. Not the fastest, but good quality. Also have upgrades to just about everything including the rudder.
Really never hear anything about FeelFree so I don’t think many are buying them. Seat looks comfortable though ;)
Thanks! The one thing I'm getting hung up on with the Feelfree is that awesome, removable battery box. I also like that it has side rails - something I haven't seen on other yaks. I really like the 360 swivel seat on the new Titan.
Are you planning on running a trolling motor? If you only want/need battery for electronics, there are many good options without a bulky battery box.

Re: Yak help... Questions

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2023 5:52 pm
by Hogsticker2
Drakestar wrote:
Fri Sep 08, 2023 3:22 pm
Hogsticker2 wrote:
Tue Sep 05, 2023 11:56 am
Jeffbro999 wrote:
Mon Sep 04, 2023 9:24 am
I’d go with the Native for sure. One big advantage of the Native is the drive is simple and they have instructions/videos on how to take it apart and service/repair it. Not the fastest, but good quality. Also have upgrades to just about everything including the rudder.
Really never hear anything about FeelFree so I don’t think many are buying them. Seat looks comfortable though ;)
Thanks! The one thing I'm getting hung up on with the Feelfree is that awesome, removable battery box. I also like that it has side rails - something I haven't seen on other yaks. I really like the 360 swivel seat on the new Titan.
Are you planning on running a trolling motor? If you only want/need battery for electronics, there are many good options without a bulky battery box.
Nah, just a sonar - maybe two.

Re: Yak help... Questions

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2023 5:40 pm
by Drakestar
Hogsticker2 wrote:
Fri Sep 08, 2023 5:52 pm
Drakestar wrote:
Fri Sep 08, 2023 3:22 pm
Hogsticker2 wrote:
Tue Sep 05, 2023 11:56 am
Jeffbro999 wrote:
Mon Sep 04, 2023 9:24 am
I’d go with the Native for sure. One big advantage of the Native is the drive is simple and they have instructions/videos on how to take it apart and service/repair it. Not the fastest, but good quality. Also have upgrades to just about everything including the rudder.
Really never hear anything about FeelFree so I don’t think many are buying them. Seat looks comfortable though ;)
Thanks! The one thing I'm getting hung up on with the Feelfree is that awesome, removable battery box. I also like that it has side rails - something I haven't seen on other yaks. I really like the 360 swivel seat on the new Titan.
Are you planning on running a trolling motor? If you only want/need battery for electronics, there are many good options without a bulky battery box.
Nah, just a sonar - maybe two.
Then a 20aH Nocqua should be good enough, you don't need a giant car battery-size contraption like on the FeelFree (even if it's a car battery-sized Lithium). I have two 20aH Nocqua batteries (running two Helixes), each fits into the palm of my hand and I just put them into the hatch space inside the kayak.

Re: Yak help... Questions

Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 9:15 am
by Jeffbro999
Very true, no need for that big case and you can make your own to fit the battery you need. I made one out of a waterproof ammo case. Added USB plug and 12v, as well as a few other accessories. Only need it for PowerPole battery so it’s easier to remove to charge.
Looks like the Native has a nice battery compartment under the seat so that’s there if you do decide to add a motor in the future.

Re: Yak help... Questions

Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 11:01 am
by Hogsticker2
Drakestar wrote:
Sat Sep 09, 2023 5:40 pm
Hogsticker2 wrote:
Fri Sep 08, 2023 5:52 pm
Drakestar wrote:
Fri Sep 08, 2023 3:22 pm
Hogsticker2 wrote:
Tue Sep 05, 2023 11:56 am
Jeffbro999 wrote:
Mon Sep 04, 2023 9:24 am
I’d go with the Native for sure. One big advantage of the Native is the drive is simple and they have instructions/videos on how to take it apart and service/repair it. Not the fastest, but good quality. Also have upgrades to just about everything including the rudder.
Really never hear anything about FeelFree so I don’t think many are buying them. Seat looks comfortable though ;)
Thanks! The one thing I'm getting hung up on with the Feelfree is that awesome, removable battery box. I also like that it has side rails - something I haven't seen on other yaks. I really like the 360 swivel seat on the new Titan.
Are you planning on running a trolling motor? If you only want/need battery for electronics, there are many good options without a bulky battery box.
Nah, just a sonar - maybe two.
Then a 20aH Nocqua should be good enough, you don't need a giant car battery-size contraption like on the FeelFree (even if it's a car battery-sized Lithium). I have two 20aH Nocqua batteries (running two Helixes), each fits into the palm of my hand and I just put them into the hatch space inside the kayak.
I should have mentioned - If I do choose the Dorado, there is always the possibility I might eventually get motor designed to plug into the drive. It's actually pretty cool. I wish I could find some pictures of the bottom of the hulls for both the Dorado V2 and the Titan X.