Trout spoon recommendations?

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Trout spoon recommendations?

Post by lifeofRiley » Mon May 20, 2019 9:30 pm

I'm looking to try some spoons for stream trout fishing. I fish medium to large trout streams, targeting browns from 12 inches to 22 inches. There is the possibility of trout up to 28 inches on this river. Any spoons I can buy in the US at tackle shops or links to a good spoon for sale on the interwebs is appreciated. Or even hints at what weights to throw. 1/8 oz? 1/4oz? My setup is a medium or medium light spinning rod with 10pp or 8lb. American domestic nylon.

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Re: Trout spoon recommendations?

Post by Dalleinf » Mon May 20, 2019 10:04 pm

I cannot help with US shops, but normally shop from amazon.co.jp, japantackle or some ebay vendor.

I have used many different JDM trout spoons from 3.5g (1/8oz) to 7g (1/4oz).

Forest MIU 3.5g and 5g and other weights is very popular but from this brand, Forest, I actually prefer the 6.1g Forest Realize, which has relatively thin blade and a lot of action on the fall. It is great for big trout.

Smith Pure 5g is very nice, slightly thicker blade relative to size but still great action.
River Old Satellite 5g, similar.
God Hands mountain stream dragon ripples 5g and 7g for slightly deeper water.

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Re: Trout spoon recommendations?

Post by CM_Stewart » Tue May 21, 2019 9:51 am

I would say with that rod/line combination a 4g spoon would be the minimum weight to use. I've had good luck with the Smith DS-line spoons and the Daiwa Crusader spoons, both of which come in 4g weights. Both also come in heavier weights but I haven't tried them.
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Re: Trout spoon recommendations?

Post by Houndfish » Tue May 21, 2019 10:29 am

I have started my spoon adventures with the Daiwa Crusader 4g spoons. Other than not being a huge fan of the hooks they come with, I have nothing but good things to say about them. They (obviously) cast like a rocket and have a nice wobble at a pretty good range of retrieve speeds.

The issues I’m having with the hooks involves feeling like I missed a fair number of hits on them when fishing for smallmouth and white perch. The limited trout fishing I’ve done with them seems to produce a much better hit to hook up ratio.

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Re: Trout spoon recommendations?

Post by Dalleinf » Tue May 21, 2019 10:39 am

I only have the Daiwa Crusader in the 5 gram version, which is also very nice.

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Re: Trout spoon recommendations?

Post by poisonokie » Tue May 21, 2019 11:22 am

Hate to say this, but check out the yapada spoons on all express. They have great finishes and use owner hooks. You'll save a ton of money. The ones by Daiwa are exorbitantly expensive by comparison. At least use the yapadas until you find all the snags. They say Lure Land on the packaging if that helps track them down.
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Re: Trout spoon recommendations?

Post by Dalleinf » Tue May 21, 2019 11:30 am

poisonokie wrote:
Tue May 21, 2019 11:22 am
Hate to say this, but check out the yapada spoons on all express. They have great finishes and use owner hooks. You'll save a ton of money. The ones by Daiwa are exorbitantly expensive by comparison. At least use the yapadas until you find all the snags. They say Lure Land on the packaging if that helps track them down.
I agree that the Yapadas are nice - I have had succes with the “Yapada 012 spoon” in 5 gram. I also like many of the Jerry spoons. Many of the very cheap aliexpress spoons also work well but need new hooks and possibly split rings. Sometimes it just makes me feel better to fish the shiny JDM spoons 8-)

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Re: Trout spoon recommendations?

Post by Craigthor » Tue May 21, 2019 11:44 am

I’ve got a ton of spoons from 5-5.5g with different shapes and sizes. Each fills a spot depending on the type of waters I’m fishing.

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Re: Trout spoon recommendations?

Post by lifeofRiley » Tue May 21, 2019 11:57 am

Thanks for the reccomendations, I just ordered $14 worth of the chinese spoons. I fish the upper midwest, mainly wisconsin and Minnesota trout streams. Inline spinners are what 99% of people throw and they work great but I figured after reading about spoons on here that they've got to be worth a try. Hopefully the streams around here clear up soon and we stop getting rain. Everything has been too muddy and/or high to fish most of this spring.

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Re: Trout spoon recommendations?

Post by Dalleinf » Tue May 21, 2019 12:26 pm

lifeofRiley wrote:
Tue May 21, 2019 11:57 am
Thanks for the reccomendations, I just ordered $14 worth of the chinese spoons. I fish the upper midwest, mainly wisconsin and Minnesota trout streams. Inline spinners are what 99% of people throw and they work great but I figured after reading about spoons on here that they've got to be worth a try. Hopefully the streams around here clear up soon and we stop getting rain. Everything has been too muddy and/or high to fish most of this spring.
I am with the 99% of people :D Inline spinners work great and are my favourites 8-) Still, spoons are fun to throw and offer some advantages in deep pools etc. I went fishing earlier today and caught many small trout on the Smith Pure 5 gram thrown upstream. Within the next month, sea run brown trout will begin to migrate up my small local streams and the average size of trout I catch will be around 50 centimeters. I cannot wait :P

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Re: Trout spoon recommendations?

Post by poisonokie » Tue May 21, 2019 1:02 pm

I just don't see how you deal with line twist with inline spinners. Even with a swivel it'll wreck my spool after a while. I suppose using braid helps, since line twist doesn't matter as much, but on a spinning reel I wound up with some crazy wind knots from throwing those.
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Re: Trout spoon recommendations?

Post by Dalleinf » Tue May 21, 2019 1:11 pm

poisonokie wrote:
Tue May 21, 2019 1:02 pm
I just don't see how you deal with line twist with inline spinners. Even with a swivel it'll wreck my spool after a while. I suppose using braid helps, since line twist doesn't matter as much, but on a spinning reel I wound up with some crazy wind knots from throwing those.
As mentioned in another thread, line twist is a non-issue for me when using baitcasters, 4-8 strand PE, and the Owner 52459. Actually, I have also used basic egg / diamond snaps and still no problem. Only exception, for some reason, has been with WFT Gliss where I have had line twist allthough it did not affect my fishing or catch rate...

I use baitcasters, monofilament line, and large inline spinners #4-5 including heavy Flying Cs when salmon fishing and no line twist issue there either.

Spinning reels is another story but others seem to manage...

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Re: Trout spoon recommendations?

Post by Bronzeye » Wed May 22, 2019 2:59 am

The 1/4 oz Thomas Buoyant is my favorite spoon for wading and casting upstream in very clear water. Its weight allows casting far to avoid detection by trout, and its design keeps it from sinking below the depth at which you started your retrieve when you retrieve it just a little faster than the current that is moving toward you.

I've caught trout from 6" to 16" on it. It's easy to find in trout country stores; Wal-Marts usually have them.

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Re: Trout spoon recommendations?

Post by adam lancia » Wed May 22, 2019 5:50 am

poisonokie wrote:
Tue May 21, 2019 11:22 am
Hate to say this, but check out the yapada spoons on all express. They have great finishes and use owner hooks. You'll save a ton of money. The ones by Daiwa are exorbitantly expensive by comparison. At least use the yapadas until you find all the snags. They say Lure Land on the packaging if that helps track them down.
Would you mind posting a link...? They have a bunch of different ones listed. Thanks!

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Re: Trout spoon recommendations?

Post by poisonokie » Wed May 22, 2019 10:11 am

Okay first off I must apologize and admit I was mistaken. It must've been a considerably heavier 3.5g spoon I was spooling it with.
I had about 5 min this morning to make a few casts and walk off the distance in the front yard. There was a slight 2mph crosswind and high humidity which makes the air less dense and more slippery. There are, however, line grabbing shrubs and trees on one side of the narrow 20-25' space and a car or two parked at the curb of the other side, so I can't just cast with abandon. Even so, with the mag brake at max and the mechanical brake up, and with the caveat that I paced off the distance, I could get ~25 yards without a hint of backlash. In a more open setting where I could turn down the mag braking a few notches and possibly even relax the spool tension, and swing for the fences, I'm confident I could smash in a few more yards.
This weekend I'll do just that and count the number of cranks it takes to get the spoon back to where it was when I casted. That should give a more accurate number since the difference in the arbor diameter and that of a full spool is minimal and it takes the length of the rod out of the equation.

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