Spinning guides and sizes

[5poundhooker]

Just got some guides from Mudwhole.com and the stripper or first guide from the reel is a 25 next is a 16, Is that weird or will it work fine with 6# flouro . I got them on sale and didn't pay close enough attention when I ordered them. The people there said it would be fine and then again Ducket's spinning M.M.'s start with a #16. I assume it is ok, but could always bend a few ears here. Thanks in advance

[Mattman]

My first guide is typically half the diameter of my reel spool. For 90% of the rods I do, its 25, 16, 10...

[shfishinsticks]

Sounds fine to me too. My typical layout is 25, 16, 8.

[Real Legg Legend]

very good question...dont mean to thread jack but with phenix's new trout rod they used 20,16,12,10, etc. does that make a difference casting-wise? this is a 7-8ft rod....

[cjtoad]

For 90% of the rods I do, its 25, 16, 10...

I use the same.

[Snyder Rods]

very good question...dont mean to thread jack but with phenix's new trout rod they used 20,16,12,10, etc. does that make a difference casting-wise? this is a 7-8ft rod....

- For a trout rod you would be using light line, such as 6lb. and down, so you would have smaller guides - what you have sounds good.

[Angler JO]

If ever there was a need for a larger stripper it would be when flourocarbon line is used. That said, 6# flouro would probably choke fine through much smaller guides if you want to save some weight on your next build. Just about the only time the new "micro-spinning" craze runs into trouble is when heavier flourocarbon is pulled through small strippers. It's so stiff, but getting better.

[5poundhooker]

Thanks fellas, I wasn't sure if I needed a 20 between the 25 and 16. I have built many casting rods, not so many spinning rods. The other guide set I got had it the way stated above thats why I had to ask. Thank you to all who replied.

[Mattman]

Thanks fellas, I wasn't sure if I needed a 20 between the 25 and 16.

Nope

[Mattman]

very good question...dont mean to thread jack but with phenix's new trout rod they used 20,16,12,10, etc. does that make a difference casting-wise? this is a 7-8ft rod....

I size my first guide based on the reel spool diameter. I don't care what pound test or what fish you're chasing, that relationship of reel spool to first guide is what I care about. On lighter powered Trout/Panfish rods most people are using smaller reels and a size 20 for my first guide is common.

Personally...I feel they're using way too many sizes there. And the first size is probably correct for most people.

[MikeK]

All of the given setups will work, so I figured I'd chime in with mine.

My typical setup with a Daiwa size 2500 reel and 6# P-Line CXX is 25, 12, 8L (Fuji Y frame) and 5.5 or 5 fly guides to the tip. With other guide types I'll replace the 8L with a 6 fly guide. The 8L or 6 fly is 31-32" from the reel spool.
I've just finished a St. Croix 3C62MXF using Amtak NCRLA 25, 12, NCRLF 6, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, and a micro top with size 4 ring. Test casting with a Daiwa Coastal 2500 reel, 6# P-Line, and a 1/4oz Bass pro Shops casting plug gave a measured average of 41 yards.

[5poundhooker]

These are all very helpful answers. The reason it concerned me is a few years back I bought a cheap Johnny Morris 40h and a Carbonlite 7'2" medium and it wouldn't cast light baits with 8# Berkley 100%. You could feel and hear it hit the size 30 stripper and I now know it was the relationship between the wide spool and the .011 dia. stiff line that caused this. 10# P-line Flouroclear sails like braid and the other spool has braid which neither are an issue any longer after switching line. I just needed conformation from you guys before I build this rod. Thanks again fellas.