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The Next TWS Variant : Daiwa's Tatula HD



Introduction: By all accounts, Daiwa has gone all in with their new TWS line guide, a.k.a. T-Wing Gen 2, and why not? The Tatula has been a good success for the company with the only real drawback, in some eyes, being the reel's line capacity. This past Fall, Daiwa stepped up to the plate and addressed this deficiency with the new variant featuring a deeper spool giving the reel 30% more line capacity. Here now is our look at Daiwa's Tatula HD low profile baitcasting reel!

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Omission of magforce Z is due to a smaller spindle for more capacity.
There's literally no room for the inductor to retract into.

I actually like the gear speed since I use it for swimbaits.

I've used a in a semi HD family of reels a Z200, Z2020, and a Curado 300 all in 6 gear for DD22's, Spinnerbaits of 1.25 oz., to large A-Rigs all with great success.

Maybe If threw swimbaits that resembled a Size 11 Nike I'd understand the whole 5 gear deal.

I think manufacturers see it in sales as well ... as not much a demand for a 5 gearing or they would capitalize more on it by offering more models with it.

Good review, and my thoughts exactly- where's the 5 speed model?
I think you nailed it when saying this would be good for salt/inshore fish, where you need faster gears & large capacity.

Looking forward to the (slightly) more interesting models in the morethan & tatula HLC, to see if they stand out from the rest of the pack in actual on the water performance.

I've been begging my local sporting goods manager to bring this in to Sportsmans Warehouse. I figure with the high speed and big capacity it would sell like mad for the Salmon/Steelhead gear guys.

I would think the 100mm handle kind of mitigates the need for a 5.x speed gear ratio. 6.x with a 100mm handle should feel as powerful and similar in speed to a 5.x with a 90mm handle. A 5.x with a 100mm handle would essentially be a winch... which I guess could be useful for huge cranks and 5+ oz swimbaits.

DaveJ

IlliniDawg01 wrote:I would think the 100mm handle kind of mitigates the need for a 5.x speed gear ratio. 6.x with a 100mm handle should feel as powerful and similar in speed to a 5.x with a 90mm handle. A 5.x with a 100mm handle would essentially be a winch... which I guess could be useful for huge cranks and 5+ oz swimbaits.

DaveJ

Great point of view !

jpd0144 wrote:

IlliniDawg01 wrote:I would think the 100mm handle kind of mitigates the need for a 5.x speed gear ratio. 6.x with a 100mm handle should feel as powerful and similar in speed to a 5.x with a 90mm handle. A 5.x with a 100mm handle would essentially be a winch... which I guess could be useful for huge cranks and 5+ oz swimbaits.

DaveJ

Great point of view !

Of course, who doesn't like choices?

I wonder if the 5.x Vanilla Tatula gearset would fit the Tatula HD for those that want that super lower speed retrieve and extra line capacity?

DaveJ

Given the HD spool shaft has a through pinion gear design and built on the same frame Im thinking its a high probability.


Anyone notice if the TW on the back side is the same as the standard Tat or if it appears to be trimmed down like the one used in the Zillion ?

I keep flipping my thoughts on each photo angle I see ...

"By our calculations, the storage volume of the Tatula HD's spool is 21.6 cubic centimeters. The standard Tatula's spool has a capacity of 17 cubic centimeters. This is a difference of 21.3% not 30%, but close."

Cal, the percent increase in storage volume would be calculated thus: volume added (4.6 cc) divided by original volume (17 cc), which comes to 27%.

21.3% is how much less storage volume the original spool has than the deep spool (4.6/21.6); the figure is smaller because the divisor is larger.

Daiwa probably got its 30% figure by counting actual yards of some pound test line loaded on the two spools. That might vary with the lb. test used; hence, your less mysterious volumetric comparison. I do have this question: did you calculate volume from the outside of the spool core to the top of the spool sides, or to a Daiwa-recommended line-fill level, or to an alternate fill level you prefer with Tatulas? I ask because the squaring of the radius in volume calculations means that the increase in volume rises at an exponential, not linear, rate as one moves away from the hub, so the fill level matters a lot in such a calculation.

IlliniDawg01 wrote:I would think the 100mm handle kind of mitigates the need for a 5.x speed gear ratio. 6.x with a 100mm handle should feel as powerful and similar in speed to a 5.x with a 90mm handle. A 5.x with a 100mm handle would essentially be a winch... which I guess could be useful for huge cranks and 5+ oz swimbaits.

DaveJ

Ime, with swimbait reels, is less about 'feeling powerful' and more about the slow gear ratio being able to creep your baits at a snails pace(atleast with thumper tail baits like Hudds, ospreys, etc). With those baits, the slower the better.