Small paddle tail rod… 76 preferred

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Small paddle tail rod… 76 preferred

Post by sarcazmo » Sat Dec 30, 2023 7:19 am

Hello experts looking for feedback on a rod to throw small paddle tails. 2.8-3.5 open hook on up to 3/8 oz heads.

Mostly open water applications, sometimes sparse cover.

I’m looking for something in the 76 range with a softer action.

I’ll be honest I don’t have much experience with this technique, but slow rolling a 3in swim bait in 20+ ft of water and it getting hammered is addictive!

Currently using a 72 eternity blank I built and it’s just a little fast.

Several rods have caught my eye

Expride 76 ml/m
Tatula 76
Muse black 76ml or m
Tw had the old elite feider rod on sale
Okuma series x 76m also looks really nice

Would like to keep it around 300 if possible.

Ty!

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Re: Small paddle tail rod… 76 preferred

Post by dragon1 » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:53 pm

I'm assuming those are spinning rods? If so that's a pretty strong list.

If you want a softer action and if you'll be using braid + leader, I would say the Fitzgerald All Purpose 7'6" medium should be on your radar as well.

The ALX McSmalls is also one I have considered for these same techs
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Re: Small paddle tail rod… 76 preferred

Post by sarcazmo » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:22 pm

dragon1 wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:53 pm
I'm assuming those are spinning rods? If so that's a pretty strong list.

If you want a softer action and if you'll be using braid + leader, I would say the Fitzgerald All Purpose 7'6" medium should be on your radar as well.

The ALX McSmalls is also one I have considered for these same techs
Wasn’t even aware of the Fitzgerald but now it’s for sure on the list!

Thank you for the recommendation!

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Re: Small paddle tail rod… 76 preferred

Post by dragon1 » Sat Dec 30, 2023 6:00 pm

sarcazmo wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:22 pm
dragon1 wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:53 pm
I'm assuming those are spinning rods? If so that's a pretty strong list.

If you want a softer action and if you'll be using braid + leader, I would say the Fitzgerald All Purpose 7'6" medium should be on your radar as well.

The ALX McSmalls is also one I have considered for these same techs
Wasn’t even aware of the Fitzgerald but now it’s for sure on the list!

Thank you for the recommendation!
Yeppers, you're very welcome.

If you can find them in stock, I have researched the hell out of these two rods for lots of ML+/7'6" spinning rod techs...the specs are exceptional for the blank, components, and also the overall weight.

Shimano Hard Rocker BB and SS in the 7'6" ML+.

https://www.plat.co.jp/shop/catalog/pro ... 00yen.html

https://www.plat.co.jp/shop/catalog/pro ... 00yen.html
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Re: Small paddle tail rod… 76 preferred

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Re: Small paddle tail rod… 76 preferred

Post by dragon1 » Sat Dec 30, 2023 8:53 pm

Chode wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 7:59 pm
https://keitech.co.jp/pages/600/
Pretty kool concept for BC option for paddletails.

If I use a BC for 1/8-3/8 jigheads and 2.8-3.8 paddletails, I'm going to use my custom Vinnie Lamiglas Infinity 873, it's 7'3", with a fast/flexible 1/4 tip and shuts down into a very stout MH+ backbone. Additionally, it is very light, has a Matagi rear balancing kit, and is cleanly and brilliantly built. I have it paired with my Gekkabijin LH with Rays BFS deep SV spool and YGK X8 Upgrade 40lb + 10-12 leader.
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Re: Small paddle tail rod… 76 preferred

Post by Real » Sun Dec 31, 2023 4:57 am

The Expride is a good choice but if your budget is a bit more limited you could go with a 7 foot 6 L rod from the newest Curado series from Shimano. I have one and it's one of those '' The ONE rod''.

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Re: Small paddle tail rod… 76 preferred

Post by sarcazmo » Sun Dec 31, 2023 8:33 am

Real wrote:
Sun Dec 31, 2023 4:57 am
The Expride is a good choice but if your budget is a bit more limited you could go with a 7 foot 6 L rod from the newest Curado series from Shimano. I have one and it's one of those '' The ONE rod''.
How I’d the action of this rod? Could it handle 3/8 plus a roughly 3in plastic?

Occasionally fish 30-50ft
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Re: Small paddle tail rod… 76 preferred

Post by sarcazmo » Sun Dec 31, 2023 8:35 am

dragon1 wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 8:53 pm
Chode wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 7:59 pm
https://keitech.co.jp/pages/600/
Pretty kool concept for BC option for paddletails.

If I use a BC for 1/8-3/8 jigheads and 2.8-3.8 paddletails, I'm going to use my custom Vinnie Lamiglas Infinity 873, it's 7'3", with a fast/flexible 1/4 tip and shuts down into a very stout MH+ backbone. Additionally, it is very light, has a Matagi rear balancing kit, and is cleanly and brilliantly built. I have it paired with my Gekkabijin LH with Rays BFS deep SV spool and YGK X8 Upgrade 40lb + 10-12 leader.
I have a phenix k2 763? Blank waiting to be built into a spinning rod, it’s just finding the time. :)

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Re: Small paddle tail rod… 76 preferred

Post by dragon1 » Sun Dec 31, 2023 2:32 pm

sarcazmo wrote:
Sun Dec 31, 2023 8:35 am
dragon1 wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 8:53 pm
Chode wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 7:59 pm
https://keitech.co.jp/pages/600/
Pretty kool concept for BC option for paddletails.

If I use a BC for 1/8-3/8 jigheads and 2.8-3.8 paddletails, I'm going to use my custom Vinnie Lamiglas Infinity 873, it's 7'3", with a fast/flexible 1/4 tip and shuts down into a very stout MH+ backbone. Additionally, it is very light, has a Matagi rear balancing kit, and is cleanly and brilliantly built. I have it paired with my Gekkabijin LH with Rays BFS deep SV spool and YGK X8 Upgrade 40lb + 10-12 leader.
I have a phenix k2 763? Blank waiting to be built into a spinning rod, it’s just finding the time. :)
That's probably a badass blank, although it might be a bit more powerful than the 873 Lamiglas Infinity? This 873 is truly a ML fast tip that loads easily and then locks into a MH+ backbone..the tip on this blank will handle 1/8 no problem and then toss 3/4 oz lipless or toss 1/4 poppers. I like it with light wire 1/4 - 3/8 oz open hook Swimjigs as well...all with braid/leader.

The good news is there happens to be quite a few available options at $300 or less, so you can stay within your budget...granted da Guhv-mint charges taxes on everything sold retail online now.
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Re: Small paddle tail rod… 76 preferred

Post by harry chang » Sun Dec 31, 2023 5:15 pm

Another option is Phenix X12, which is what I use. I also use NFC Fast Glass APFG742. Harry

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Re: Small paddle tail rod… 76 preferred

Post by dragon1 » Sun Dec 31, 2023 7:13 pm

harry chang wrote:
Sun Dec 31, 2023 5:15 pm
Another option is Phenix X12, which is what I use. I also use NFC Fast Glass APFG742. Harry
Absolutely, I was very high on picking up a Phenix X12 spinning, however Phenix has not manufactured this rod for almost a year and have discontinued all X composite spinning rods.

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Re: Small paddle tail rod… 76 preferred

Post by reason162 » Sun Dec 31, 2023 9:07 pm

sarcazmo wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 7:19 am
I’m looking for something in the 76 range with a softer action.
The Tatula Elite AGS 76MLM (Seth Feider model, not the Johnston model) is what you're looking for. It reminds me of the old blue Steez AGS 76MLM - softer through the tip and mid than the current Compile X Steez but plenty of backbone and very light/well balanced. It's a smallmouth moving bait rod in my hands - spybait and 3/16 - 3/8oz ballhead + 3" shad body rod.

You'll probably be happy with the Expride too, but it seems a bit heavy for what it is...over 4oz.

And no offense intended but when I hear "Fitzgerald" and "13 Fishing" etc on TT I'm like :shock:

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Re: Small paddle tail rod… 76 preferred

Post by hoohoorjoo » Sun Dec 31, 2023 10:17 pm

harry chang wrote:
Sun Dec 31, 2023 5:15 pm
Another option is Phenix X12, which is what I use. I also use NFC Fast Glass APFG742. Harry
Phenix discontinued the X12 spinning rods. You can order the blank and build it yourself, though.
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Re: Small paddle tail rod… 76 preferred

Post by Real » Mon Jan 01, 2024 4:48 am

sarcazmo wrote:
Sun Dec 31, 2023 8:33 am
Real wrote:
Sun Dec 31, 2023 4:57 am
The Expride is a good choice but if your budget is a bit more limited you could go with a 7 foot 6 L rod from the newest Curado series from Shimano. I have one and it's one of those '' The ONE rod''.
How I’d the action of this rod? Could it handle 3/8 plus a roughly 3in plastic?

Occasionally fish 30-50ft
Yes, I use it with that kind of weight fishing from shore for late season walleyes. The lenght makes it a great rod for sensitivity after a long cast.

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