New 2021 Daiwa 月下美人 “Alphas” Air TW PE Special

This is the place to talk shop about all the enthusiast and import tackle for the truly afflicted
User avatar
Hobie-Wan Kenobi
Pro Angler
Pro Angler
Posts: 3014
Joined: Tue Apr 08, 2014 1:25 pm
Location: Michigan (U.P)
Contact:

Re: New 2021 Daiwa 月下美人 “Alphas” Air TW PE Special

Post by Hobie-Wan Kenobi » Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:04 am

Anyone got one yet?
IG @hobie_wan_kenobi_fishing

trevor60
Angler
Angler
Posts: 46
Joined: Mon Sep 07, 2015 6:48 am

Re: New 2021 Daiwa 月下美人 “Alphas” Air TW PE Special

Post by trevor60 » Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:28 am

Not yet. order is in
i did find this video. comparing the steez to the 月下美人 alphas.
He takes some measurements and for 33min i waited for him to put the Steez spool in the Alphas... no go.
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZv4m9H0Y7s[/youtube]

there is more youtube content if you search 月下美人AIR TW PE SPECIAL

Cheers
Trevor

Freddie
Senior Angler
Senior Angler
Posts: 168
Joined: Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:44 am

Re: New 2021 Daiwa 月下美人 “Alphas” Air TW PE Special

Post by Freddie » Wed Oct 06, 2021 4:14 pm

By all appearances the spools look identical in size
Attachments
DCD9E286-69AE-4920-AADE-A2C9C1CAD65E.jpeg
DCD9E286-69AE-4920-AADE-A2C9C1CAD65E.jpeg (28.45 KiB) Viewed 7000 times

Freddie
Senior Angler
Senior Angler
Posts: 168
Joined: Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:44 am

Re: New 2021 Daiwa 月下美人 “Alphas” Air TW PE Special

Post by Freddie » Wed Oct 06, 2021 4:15 pm

However, the spool the weights were almost identical. I think the PE spool was a 10th of a gram heavier

User avatar
Hobie-Wan Kenobi
Pro Angler
Pro Angler
Posts: 3014
Joined: Tue Apr 08, 2014 1:25 pm
Location: Michigan (U.P)
Contact:

Re: New 2021 Daiwa 月下美人 “Alphas” Air TW PE Special

Post by Hobie-Wan Kenobi » Wed Oct 06, 2021 4:24 pm

Freddie wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 4:15 pm
However, the spool the weights were almost identical. I think the PE spool was a 10th of a gram heavier
That narrow line area / wider spool edges get the TWS even more beneficial. I guess we will see casting performance soon enough.
IG @hobie_wan_kenobi_fishing

User avatar
jvelth74
Platinum Angler
Platinum Angler
Posts: 944
Joined: Fri Aug 24, 2018 7:03 am
Location: Finland
Contact:

Re: New 2021 Daiwa 月下美人 “Alphas” Air TW PE Special

Post by jvelth74 » Thu Oct 07, 2021 4:36 am

Very good video review of Gekkabijin !

I asked for Digitaka:
Could you check that if spools are interchangeable between GekkaBijin AIR TW PE & Alphas Air TW?
They answered:
Dear sir,
Yes the spool can be compatibled each other.


Might be, might be :D

Or is this direct answer that those are interchangeable? What do you think?
(English is not mine Mother language, and it's not Mother language of Digitaka's crew...)

User avatar
Hobie-Wan Kenobi
Pro Angler
Pro Angler
Posts: 3014
Joined: Tue Apr 08, 2014 1:25 pm
Location: Michigan (U.P)
Contact:

Re: New 2021 Daiwa 月下美人 “Alphas” Air TW PE Special

Post by Hobie-Wan Kenobi » Thu Oct 07, 2021 6:00 am

You all will find out soon enough how the Gekka Bijin and the Alphas AIR TW compare. I will be posting results here. :whistle:
IG @hobie_wan_kenobi_fishing

User avatar
jvelth74
Platinum Angler
Platinum Angler
Posts: 944
Joined: Fri Aug 24, 2018 7:03 am
Location: Finland
Contact:

Re: New 2021 Daiwa 月下美人 “Alphas” Air TW PE Special

Post by jvelth74 » Thu Oct 07, 2021 6:16 am

Hobie-Wan Kenobi wrote:
Thu Oct 07, 2021 6:00 am
You all will find out soon enough how the Gekka Bijin and the Alphas AIR TW compare. I will be posting results here. :whistle:
Thanks in advance! 8-)

67er
Senior Angler
Senior Angler
Posts: 66
Joined: Mon Aug 07, 2006 8:56 pm

Re: New 2021 Daiwa 月下美人 “Alphas” Air TW PE Special

Post by 67er » Thu Oct 07, 2021 8:45 am

Hobie-Wan Kenobi wrote:
Thu Oct 07, 2021 6:00 am
You all will find out soon enough how the Gekka Bijin and the Alphas AIR TW compare. I will be posting results here. :whistle:
Wow! Thanks a bunch dude.

I suppose you will probably swap the clicker over to Air TW, Many here will be interested to know what parts to buy to transform into Exciting Drag Sound, and I suspect both the level winds are the same despite the narrower PE special spool.

User avatar
jvelth74
Platinum Angler
Platinum Angler
Posts: 944
Joined: Fri Aug 24, 2018 7:03 am
Location: Finland
Contact:

Re: New 2021 Daiwa 月下美人 “Alphas” Air TW PE Special

Post by jvelth74 » Thu Oct 07, 2021 9:48 am

I like also to speculate, because I know so little of this reel :D

It's 8.5 cranking ratio in Gekkabin, and it's 8.6 ratio in Air, so gears are different.
=> It's possible that also gears must be changed to Air, in case of putting Gekkabin's clikcer to Air.

Is there any difference in TWS travel, that I'm exteremely interested. And if there's difference, how much it actually is. Because this rules are same spools usable between these reels. This was from that publication site, picture of line spooled:
Image
There's more line in the edge of spool. I'm unsure is there difference in TWS travel between these reels. But I trust on that Hobie will tell also that to us 8-)

Jbc88
Senior Angler
Senior Angler
Posts: 148
Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:18 pm

Re: New 2021 Daiwa 月下美人 “Alphas” Air TW PE Special

Post by Jbc88 » Thu Oct 07, 2021 11:49 am

67er wrote:
Thu Oct 07, 2021 8:45 am
Hobie-Wan Kenobi wrote:
Thu Oct 07, 2021 6:00 am
You all will find out soon enough how the Gekka Bijin and the Alphas AIR TW compare. I will be posting results here. :whistle:
Wow! Thanks a bunch dude.

I suppose you will probably swap the clicker over to Air TW, Many here will be interested to know what parts to buy to transform into Exciting Drag Sound, and I suspect both the level winds are the same despite the narrower PE special spool.
I wouldnt want to swap out the clicker into the air tw, Ryan sells his drag clicker kit and its a pretty nice kit. I bought several of them from him already. mine also just came in today but i havent got the chance to compare yet.

User avatar
Hobie-Wan Kenobi
Pro Angler
Pro Angler
Posts: 3014
Joined: Tue Apr 08, 2014 1:25 pm
Location: Michigan (U.P)
Contact:

Re: New 2021 Daiwa 月下美人 “Alphas” Air TW PE Special

Post by Hobie-Wan Kenobi » Thu Oct 07, 2021 1:38 pm

67er wrote:
Thu Oct 07, 2021 8:45 am
Hobie-Wan Kenobi wrote:
Thu Oct 07, 2021 6:00 am
You all will find out soon enough how the Gekka Bijin and the Alphas AIR TW compare. I will be posting results here. :whistle:
Wow! Thanks a bunch dude.

I suppose you will probably swap the clicker over to Air TW, Many here will be interested to know what parts to buy to transform into Exciting Drag Sound, and I suspect both the level winds are the same despite the narrower PE special spool.
I already have a drag clicker in my Alphas AIR TW (Sagisi Customs). I will swap spools and such to see how similar the reels are.
IG @hobie_wan_kenobi_fishing

User avatar
Hobie-Wan Kenobi
Pro Angler
Pro Angler
Posts: 3014
Joined: Tue Apr 08, 2014 1:25 pm
Location: Michigan (U.P)
Contact:

Re: New 2021 Daiwa 月下美人 “Alphas” Air TW PE Special

Post by Hobie-Wan Kenobi » Thu Oct 07, 2021 1:40 pm

If there are any specifics you all want to see with a comparison between the Alphas AIR TW and the new PE version Gekka Bijin, comment on this thread. I will take your input for my comparison video I do. I will be posting results here too.
IG @hobie_wan_kenobi_fishing

User avatar
jvelth74
Platinum Angler
Platinum Angler
Posts: 944
Joined: Fri Aug 24, 2018 7:03 am
Location: Finland
Contact:

Re: New 2021 Daiwa 月下美人 “Alphas” Air TW PE Special

Post by jvelth74 » Thu Oct 07, 2021 2:25 pm

  • Are spools interchangeable between Gekkabin and Alphas Air?
  • Is there difference in movement of TWS between Gekkabin and Alphas Air?
  • If there is difference, how much it is?
Thanks in advance!

67er
Senior Angler
Senior Angler
Posts: 66
Joined: Mon Aug 07, 2006 8:56 pm

Re: New 2021 Daiwa 月下美人 “Alphas” Air TW PE Special

Post by 67er » Thu Oct 07, 2021 9:24 pm

Hobie-Wan Kenobi wrote:
Thu Oct 07, 2021 1:38 pm
67er wrote:
Thu Oct 07, 2021 8:45 am
Hobie-Wan Kenobi wrote:
Thu Oct 07, 2021 6:00 am
You all will find out soon enough how the Gekka Bijin and the Alphas AIR TW compare. I will be posting results here. :whistle:
Wow! Thanks a bunch dude.

I suppose you will probably swap the clicker over to Air TW, Many here will be interested to know what parts to buy to transform into Exciting Drag Sound, and I suspect both the level winds are the same despite the narrower PE special spool.
I already have a drag clicker in my Alphas AIR TW (Sagisi Customs). I will swap spools and such to see how similar the reels are.
Speaking of conflict of interest... sorry to put you in a tight spot ... but surely someone will do it anyways.

Post Reply