2023 Steez “Real Control” Rods

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Re: 2023 Steez “Real Control” Rods

Post by 4g63power » Sat Sep 23, 2023 11:07 pm

Chode wrote:
Sat Sep 23, 2023 6:30 pm
Any more reviews on these? Especially interested in the casting rod. Thx
What more do you need to know? That it's so expensive it's so good, it's a must have? :lol:
Well it's kind of what it's advertised to be, long sharp soild tip heavy class rod. For how light it is, it feels pretty powerful and repulsive blank helps the extra fast tapered rod load up and cast well. Don't expect to be blown away by its sensitivity since it's solid tip. It's good but soild tip rods won't be more sensitive than good tubular tip rods.

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Re: 2023 Steez “Real Control” Rods

Post by Chode » Mon Sep 25, 2023 7:36 pm

4g63power wrote:
Sat Sep 23, 2023 11:07 pm
Chode wrote:
Sat Sep 23, 2023 6:30 pm
Any more reviews on these? Especially interested in the casting rod. Thx
What more do you need to know? That it's so expensive it's so good, it's a must have? :lol:
Well it's kind of what it's advertised to be, long sharp soild tip heavy class rod. For how light it is, it feels pretty powerful and repulsive blank helps the extra fast tapered rod load up and cast well. Don't expect to be blown away by its sensitivity since it's solid tip. It's good but soild tip rods won't be more sensitive than good tubular tip rods.
Hmm, I've actually heard differently and that's why I was asking about the casting rod. A lot of people have stated that the RD hustler finesse tune with the solid tip is actually more sensitive than a lot of its competitors so I'm wondering if that's the case with the real control.

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Re: 2023 Steez “Real Control” Rods

Post by 4g63power » Sun Oct 01, 2023 9:17 pm

Chode wrote:
Mon Sep 25, 2023 7:36 pm
4g63power wrote:
Sat Sep 23, 2023 11:07 pm
Chode wrote:
Sat Sep 23, 2023 6:30 pm
Any more reviews on these? Especially interested in the casting rod. Thx
What more do you need to know? That it's so expensive it's so good, it's a must have? :lol:
Well it's kind of what it's advertised to be, long sharp soild tip heavy class rod. For how light it is, it feels pretty powerful and repulsive blank helps the extra fast tapered rod load up and cast well. Don't expect to be blown away by its sensitivity since it's solid tip. It's good but soild tip rods won't be more sensitive than good tubular tip rods.
Hmm, I've actually heard differently and that's why I was asking about the casting rod. A lot of people have stated that the RD hustler finesse tune with the solid tip is actually more sensitive than a lot of its competitors so I'm wondering if that's the case with the real control.
Well i thought someone could appreciate my honest thought? Jk
If you didn't know, you should know that most people will say nothing but praises about their expensive hype rods. It cracks me up when guys write short essays about how they picked up another expensive hype rod, after using it a couple of times, finally can say it's as sensitive as or more than their other expenses hype rods and glad they picked one up and probably getting another one.

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Re: 2023 Steez “Real Control” Rods

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Re: 2023 Steez “Real Control” Rods

Post by NOLRAMB » Tue Oct 31, 2023 10:15 am

Well, looks like I'll have to pre order the Steez RC C610M-SV

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Re: 2023 Steez “Real Control” Rods

Post by ras » Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:22 pm

Does Daiwa use T1100G in these rods, much like with other SVF Compile-X Nanoplus blanks?

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Re: 2023 Steez “Real Control” Rods

Post by 4g63power » Wed Nov 01, 2023 11:22 pm

ras wrote:
Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:22 pm
Does Daiwa use T1100G in these rods, much like with other SVF Compile-X Nanoplus blanks?
Daiwa has never stated that they use T1100G in any of nanoplus blanks

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Re: 2023 Steez “Real Control” Rods

Post by Cranky » Thu Nov 02, 2023 4:07 am

Daiwa is one of the few companies these days that appears unwilling to advertise what’s used in their rods. For better or worse.

Having fished the Real Control, Racing Designs, and USDM AGS rods quite a bit, along with other T1100G (and some T1100G+M40X) rods (some amazing and some disappointing), and looking at the builds/weights on the Real Control series… I don’t actually care what tag they put on it.

In my hands the Real Control S68MH is higher performance than the RD and AGS series. Whether it’s using M40X and/or other new tricks, only Daiwa seems to know those details.

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Re: 2023 Steez “Real Control” Rods

Post by PKN8 » Thu Nov 02, 2023 9:25 am

Cranky wrote:
Thu Nov 02, 2023 4:07 am
In my hands the Real Control S68MH is higher performance than the RD
Dang it why'd you have to say that...now I HAVE to try one out for myself. :lol:
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Re: 2023 Steez “Real Control” Rods

Post by ras » Thu Nov 02, 2023 10:12 am

4g63power wrote:
Wed Nov 01, 2023 11:22 pm
ras wrote:
Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:22 pm
Does Daiwa use T1100G in these rods, much like with other SVF Compile-X Nanoplus blanks?
Daiwa has never stated that they use T1100G in any of nanoplus blanks
Not true. All of my Morethan Branzino Ex AGS rods came with T1100G tag.

To be clear, there is a difference between just "nanoplus" and "Compile-X nanoplus" materials, according to Daiwa.

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Re: 2023 Steez “Real Control” Rods

Post by ras » Thu Nov 02, 2023 10:16 am

Cranky wrote:
Thu Nov 02, 2023 4:07 am
Daiwa is one of the few companies these days that appears unwilling to advertise what’s used in their rods. For better or worse.

Having fished the Real Control, Racing Designs, and USDM AGS rods quite a bit, along with other T1100G (and some T1100G+M40X) rods (some amazing and some disappointing), and looking at the builds/weights on the Real Control series… I don’t actually care what tag they put on it.

In my hands the Real Control S68MH is higher performance than the RD and AGS series. Whether it’s using M40X and/or other new tricks, only Daiwa seems to know those details.
See my other answer above. Daiwa does put Torayca tags.

It is true that the exact material isn't that important, but I'd venture to guess that it wasn't T1100G or M40X.

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Re: 2023 Steez “Real Control” Rods

Post by 4g63power » Thu Nov 02, 2023 10:43 am

ras wrote:
Thu Nov 02, 2023 10:12 am
4g63power wrote:
Wed Nov 01, 2023 11:22 pm
ras wrote:
Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:22 pm
Does Daiwa use T1100G in these rods, much like with other SVF Compile-X Nanoplus blanks?
Daiwa has never stated that they use T1100G in any of nanoplus blanks
Not true. All of my Morethan Branzino Ex AGS rods came with T1100G tag.

To be clear, there is a difference between just "nanoplus" and "Compile-X nanoplus" materials, according to Daiwa.
T1100G tag is for AGS, not blank material. What is the difference between "just nanoplus" and compile-x nano other than hvf/svf/compile-x manufacturing method difference since i can't find any?

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Re: 2023 Steez “Real Control” Rods

Post by ras » Thu Nov 02, 2023 10:46 am

4g63power wrote:
Thu Nov 02, 2023 10:43 am
ras wrote:
Thu Nov 02, 2023 10:12 am
4g63power wrote:
Wed Nov 01, 2023 11:22 pm
ras wrote:
Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:22 pm
Does Daiwa use T1100G in these rods, much like with other SVF Compile-X Nanoplus blanks?
Daiwa has never stated that they use T1100G in any of nanoplus blanks
Not true. All of my Morethan Branzino Ex AGS rods came with T1100G tag.

To be clear, there is a difference between just "nanoplus" and "Compile-X nanoplus" materials, according to Daiwa.
T1100G tag is for AGS, not blank material. What is the difference between "just nanoplus" and compile-x nano other than hvf/svf/compile-x manufacturing method difference since i can't find any?
It isn't for AGS. Daiwa uses AGS just about everywhere, and you won't find T1100G tags hanging on those rods. Real Control rods use AGS guides, how come there is no tag there then? So yes, Morethan Branzino EX AGS uses T1100G for blank material, and that's the reason for the tag.

Re difference: that's what Daiwa does not disclose, but Compile-X nanoplus is there highest grade material.

P.S. sorry, this has gotten off topic...

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Re: 2023 Steez “Real Control” Rods

Post by 4g63power » Thu Nov 02, 2023 10:52 am

ras wrote:
Thu Nov 02, 2023 10:46 am
4g63power wrote:
Thu Nov 02, 2023 10:43 am
ras wrote:
Thu Nov 02, 2023 10:12 am
4g63power wrote:
Wed Nov 01, 2023 11:22 pm
ras wrote:
Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:22 pm
Does Daiwa use T1100G in these rods, much like with other SVF Compile-X Nanoplus blanks?
Daiwa has never stated that they use T1100G in any of nanoplus blanks
Not true. All of my Morethan Branzino Ex AGS rods came with T1100G tag.

To be clear, there is a difference between just "nanoplus" and "Compile-X nanoplus" materials, according to Daiwa.
T1100G tag is for AGS, not blank material. What is the difference between "just nanoplus" and compile-x nano other than hvf/svf/compile-x manufacturing method difference since i can't find any?
It isn't for AGS. Daiwa uses AGS just about everywhere, and you won't find T1100G tags hanging on those rods. Real Control rods use AGS guides, how come there is no tag there then? So yes, Morethan Branzino EX AGS uses T1100G for blank material, and that's the reason for the tag.

Re difference: that's what Daiwa does not disclose, but Compile-X nanoplus is there highest grade material.

P.S. sorry, this has gotten off topic...
That's ok. Your rods, your money, believe what you want and enjoy them. Just don't want other members being mislead.

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Re: 2023 Steez “Real Control” Rods

Post by ras » Thu Nov 02, 2023 10:53 am

4g63power wrote:
Thu Nov 02, 2023 10:52 am
ras wrote:
Thu Nov 02, 2023 10:46 am
4g63power wrote:
Thu Nov 02, 2023 10:43 am
ras wrote:
Thu Nov 02, 2023 10:12 am
4g63power wrote:
Wed Nov 01, 2023 11:22 pm


Daiwa has never stated that they use T1100G in any of nanoplus blanks
Not true. All of my Morethan Branzino Ex AGS rods came with T1100G tag.

To be clear, there is a difference between just "nanoplus" and "Compile-X nanoplus" materials, according to Daiwa.
T1100G tag is for AGS, not blank material. What is the difference between "just nanoplus" and compile-x nano other than hvf/svf/compile-x manufacturing method difference since i can't find any?
It isn't for AGS. Daiwa uses AGS just about everywhere, and you won't find T1100G tags hanging on those rods. Real Control rods use AGS guides, how come there is no tag there then? So yes, Morethan Branzino EX AGS uses T1100G for blank material, and that's the reason for the tag.

Re difference: that's what Daiwa does not disclose, but Compile-X nanoplus is there highest grade material.

P.S. sorry, this has gotten off topic...
That's ok. Your rods, your money, believe what you want and enjoy them. Just don't want other members being mislead.
I believe facts.

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