Daiwa limitbreaker

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Daiwa limitbreaker

Post by Polkfish1 » Thu Jan 19, 2023 5:45 pm

I don’t understand what this is yet. Magforce connected to some intelligent daiwa version of DC? Connecting the reel to a smartphone? Maybe I’m interpreting the YouTube incorrectly. I look forward to being educated

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9pwtjhejeoE

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Re: Daiwa limitbreaker

Post by jprice92 » Thu Jan 19, 2023 6:55 pm

Yeah looks like their version of dc which can connect to an app on the phone. Not sure what all you can do on the app though.
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Re: Daiwa limitbreaker

Post by Polkfish1 » Thu Jan 19, 2023 7:04 pm

jprice92 wrote:
Thu Jan 19, 2023 6:55 pm
Yeah looks like their version of dc which can connect to an app on the phone. Not sure what all you can do on the app though.
I also spied via catalog a listed price 125k yen. Might be an unpopular opinion, but I’m not too keen on using a phone to do anything to a reel on the water. Guess I should withhold judgement until I know more.

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Re: Daiwa limitbreaker

Post by jprice92 » Thu Jan 19, 2023 7:12 pm

Polkfish1 wrote:
Thu Jan 19, 2023 7:04 pm
jprice92 wrote:
Thu Jan 19, 2023 6:55 pm
Yeah looks like their version of dc which can connect to an app on the phone. Not sure what all you can do on the app though.
I also spied via catalog a listed price 125k yen. Might be an unpopular opinion, but I’m not too keen on using a phone to do anything to a reel on the water. Guess I should withhold judgement until I know more.
For that price maybe you can talk to it like Alexa 🤣. But I agree I’ve never been real big on the dc reels anyway but they are useful in some situations.

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Re: Daiwa limitbreaker

Post by StymoDe » Thu Jan 19, 2023 7:41 pm

https://www.lurenewsr.com/245210/

some details here...I never wanted an Apple Watch, not sure about this type of reel lol

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Re: Daiwa limitbreaker

Post by i_am_R2 » Thu Jan 19, 2023 8:29 pm

This is pretty wild, not sure about it either. A little too much going on for me. I fish so I can get away from phones and computers lol. On the other hand, for those that have been asking for a new Z it seems like its finally here. Looks based off of or very similar to the old frame/body.

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Re: Daiwa limitbreaker

Post by Tony9 » Thu Jan 19, 2023 9:36 pm

Phone app is used for logging stats and to push software updates into the reel (new braking modes, etc). It's not used to operate the reel.

There's a button on the palm side plate to select the brake mode (currently 4) and brake strength (8 total) using short or long presses.

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Re: Daiwa limitbreaker

Post by dennis_rf » Fri Jan 20, 2023 12:41 am

Or, as the whole world is pushing towards subscription models - the app will be there to unlock the last 15% of casting distance with your Daiwa Premium Caster Membership :?

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Post by SSS » Fri Jan 20, 2023 1:17 am

Wait a second, they're rebooting the Z? Now we're talking.

As for the the braking system, does it have a unique noise on a cast? Its hard to tell in the video. Also, there better be more than 3 braking settings. The LED is something i always imagined being a thing as a cool gimmick, and now they've finally done it. This thing is gonna be expensive

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Re: Daiwa limitbreaker

Post by Slazmo » Fri Jan 20, 2023 1:41 am

dennis_rf wrote:
Fri Jan 20, 2023 12:41 am
Or, as the whole world is pushing towards subscription models - the app will be there to unlock the last 15% of casting distance with your Daiwa Premium Caster Membership :?
Or build in planned obsolescence - after the 5,000th cast 'kaput' it's a slippery slide, especially app control and upkeep of that alone... And how's that battery and USB port going to go being stored in a hot car or a humid rod locker? How long does the battery have as an overall lifespan - 1 to 3 years especially in over hot or cold environments?

It's not like this things is fully encapsulated, self energizing and solid state - if it was now there's a game changer...

I can guarantee this has been looked at (to some degree) by the originator of DC braking system, but likely avoided for it's reasons.

Can of worms questions in my own mind.

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Re: Daiwa limitbreaker

Post by SSS » Fri Jan 20, 2023 1:44 am

If this braking system breaks, don't be surprised if the system alone is $300+ to replace :laugh1: But i gotta say, i do like the gimmick led on the reel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhZ0PMZc2EA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NqCSSCWAjM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqgLi9S-c7Y

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Re: Daiwa limitbreaker

Post by DirtyD64 » Fri Jan 20, 2023 3:08 am

Been able to see this one, but none of the other projected Daiwa releases (other than the spinning reels). There is some new SS Air TW reel, with a new Magforce?

I think this IMZ is a neat idea, but man that is getting expensive. And this one does have to actually be charged. Wonder if you could buy two batteries/sideplates?

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Re: Daiwa limitbreaker

Post by dennis_rf » Fri Jan 20, 2023 5:23 am

thats one heck of a flashy product website:
JP: https://www.daiwa.com/jp/fishing/item/s ... index.html
English translation: https://www-daiwa-com.translate.goog/jp ... r_pto=wapp


Maybe I'm not too far off with my subscription based casting joke:
The app doesn't seem to "run" the reel but collect data, updates and

The factory default INTELLIGENT MAGFORCE has one standard mode.
After registering and initializing your IM Z to the DAIWA app, the reel performance will be upgraded immediately.
An original function that only INTELLIGENT MAGFORCE can offer, with more brake modes to choose from. The reel performance itself will grow.


(https://www-daiwa-com.translate.goog/jp ... r_pto=wapp)

In that regard, the most important information for now is all the way at the end of the main product page:

This product is for use in Japan only.
Use overseas is not covered by operation guarantee, smartphone app interlocking, and repair reception.


As I interpret this, this reel would be rendered useless and stuck in the default mode as the app will be only available in Japan. Maybe you could get around it using a VPN, using a japanese address for your AppStore billing info and setting the store to Japan. Then you'd need a second smartphone to hover the Google translate app over your primary phone to be able to read what's going on :D

Oh and the price is 125,000 yen.

If this is the future, it will be introduced to the US eventually. For a even steeper price.

Product nameIM Z LIMITBREAKER TW HD-C
Item name XH
Winding length 100cm / handle 1 rotation
gear ratio 8.4
Weight 250g
Maximum drag force 7kg
Standard winding amount nylon: 16lb.-125m / 20lb.-100m
PE line: No.4-100m / No.5-80m
Spool diameter 38mm
handle length 95mm
Bearing ball 12 / roller 1
Battery capacity 410mAh
Battery charging time about 90 minutes (when using the included USB Type-C)
About 700 consecutive throws
Operating environment operating temperature: 0 ~ 40 degrees
Charging temperature: 15 to 30 degrees*
Installed brakeINTELLIGENT MAGFORCE
(Standard mode)
Manufacturer's suggested base price: 125,000 yen
JAN Code XH:4550133 247194*
Accessory simple instruction manual,
Warning (start guide),
Charging cord (USB Type-C),
reel case
Country of Origin: Japan

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Re: Daiwa limitbreaker

Post by jvelth74 » Fri Jan 20, 2023 6:43 am

Daiwa introduced Z2020 decade ago. Now on 2020's they introduced long waited new 'Z2020' which is now named as IM Z Limitbreaker' :D But interesting to see. Somehow I hate it already but somehow something tells me that this reel must be bought.

Actually Daiwa has developed these reels since 1984:
https://theantiqueangler.com/shop/ols/p ... sting-reel
https://www.freepatentsonline.com/4697758.html
I'm pretty sure that they have developed world's most trustworthy computer in 39 years which they have used in RD. :D

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Re: Daiwa limitbreaker

Post by flipper502 » Fri Jan 20, 2023 7:49 am

Seems like a gimmick to me. I bought an early DC reel and wasn't impressed.

Next we will have a reel that is linked to your FF sonar and it will drop your bait right in front of the fish.

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