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Spool bearing stuck in metal sleeve

Post by CGrinder » Fri Jul 02, 2021 6:57 pm

I think I've really done it this time. I have a Boca bearing stuck inside the metal sleeve that houses the bearing that sits on the spool shaft of a Zillion SV. Installation was snug but not too bad, but now I'm trying to change it back out (suspect bad bearing) and that mother is s t u c k. I can't find the part number as any schematic just shows it as part of the spool assembly.

Has this happened to anyone before? Any ideas? :lol:

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Re: Spool bearing stuck in metal sleeve

Post by Slazmo » Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:48 am

Can you pull the pinion out, soak the bearing from the inside in a penatrive oil - get to the end of the spool and "tappy tap tap" with a plastic punch of sorts and jewelers hammer.

If not apply some warmth / heat to the actual area (frame) and seen if it expands enough to release the bearing.

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Re: Spool bearing stuck in metal sleeve

Post by CGrinder » Sat Jul 03, 2021 7:33 am

I can get it to the end of the housing but there's no good way to hold onto the housing. I will post a picture when I get home. Heat is a good idea. Thanks!

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Re: Spool bearing stuck in metal sleeve

Post by hoohoorjoo » Sun Jul 04, 2021 3:07 pm

If you have a shimano reel, slide that bearing down the shimano spool shaft and let the spool pin catch the bearing, then put pressure on the sleeve. This has worked for me before. I always put a coat of grease on the outside of the bearing before sliding it into the cage. This has stopped that from happening again, so far.
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Re: Spool bearing stuck in metal sleeve

Post by Slazmo » Mon Jul 05, 2021 4:31 am

hoohoorjoo wrote:
Sun Jul 04, 2021 3:07 pm
I always put a coat of grease on the outside of the bearing before sliding it into the cage. This has stopped that from happening again, so far.
That's why I use so much lanolin, it's actually non toxic, water proof, dielectric, corrosion proof and permeates metals to create a barrier between the two. Some greases that are lithium based can cake up with water, not saying liberal grease application is a bad thing, but there are better things out there.

Getting a near new out of the box reel after some use in saltwater, only to find frame bearings welded into the frame is disappointing and tedious...

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Re: Spool bearing stuck in metal sleeve

Post by hoohoorjoo » Mon Jul 05, 2021 4:51 pm

Slazmo wrote:
Mon Jul 05, 2021 4:31 am
hoohoorjoo wrote:
Sun Jul 04, 2021 3:07 pm
I always put a coat of grease on the outside of the bearing before sliding it into the cage. This has stopped that from happening again, so far.
That's why I use so much lanolin, it's actually non toxic, water proof, dielectric, corrosion proof and permeates metals to create a barrier between the two. Some greases that are lithium based can cake up with water, not saying liberal grease application is a bad thing, but there are better things out there.

Getting a near new out of the box reel after some use in saltwater, only to find frame bearings welded into the frame is disappointing and tedious...
I use Abu Silicote. It's a synthetic silicone-based lubricant and is highly hydrophobic and dielectric.
Try not to let your mind wander. It is much too small to be outside unsupervised.

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Re: Spool bearing stuck in metal sleeve

Post by Slazmo » Mon Jul 05, 2021 6:50 pm

hoohoorjoo wrote:
Mon Jul 05, 2021 4:51 pm
I use Abu Silicote.
Alright...

But does your's make your reel smell like a fresh sheep's skin rug? Brings all the Kiwis in - they love the smell.

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Re: Spool bearing stuck in metal sleeve

Post by hoohoorjoo » Mon Jul 05, 2021 7:38 pm

Slazmo wrote:
Mon Jul 05, 2021 6:50 pm
hoohoorjoo wrote:
Mon Jul 05, 2021 4:51 pm
I use Abu Silicote.
Alright...

But does your's make your reel smell like a fresh sheep's skin rug? Brings all the Kiwis in - they love the smell.
Well, no.....:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Spool bearing stuck in metal sleeve

Post by CGrinder » Thu Jul 08, 2021 8:50 pm

Oil hasn't helped so far. Super stuck. Going to try heat. Think TSI 321 is flammable? :lol:

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Re: Spool bearing stuck in metal sleeve

Post by Slazmo » Thu Jul 08, 2021 8:55 pm

CGrinder wrote:
Thu Jul 08, 2021 8:50 pm
Oil hasn't helped so far. Super stuck. Going to try heat. Think TSI 321 is flammable? :lol:
Probably not a good idea to breath it in once it's become a vapour. But won't hurt it to creep in deeper.

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Re: Spool bearing stuck in metal sleeve

Post by Sore Thumb » Fri Jul 09, 2021 1:19 am

CGrinder wrote:
Sat Jul 03, 2021 7:33 am
I can get it to the end of the housing but there's no good way to hold onto the housing. I will post a picture when I get home. Heat is a good idea. Thanks!
Any pics yet?

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Re: Spool bearing stuck in metal sleeve

Post by mattfish11 » Tue Nov 30, 2021 7:03 pm

Results on how this turned out? Genuinely curious...

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Re: Spool bearing stuck in metal sleeve

Post by Jayce » Wed Dec 22, 2021 7:05 am

I have the same issue on a used TDZ US Trail i got from a friend.

What i did was slow pushing inward then outward just a bit just enough to slowly free it from its position.
I found that the old oil (or grease) caked around the bearing.

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Re: Spool bearing stuck in metal sleeve

Post by CGrinder » Thu Jun 15, 2023 8:36 pm

Update:

VICTORY

Threw it in a drawer for near two years while work consumed me (avoid the golf industry). Popped it out literally two days ago after I stuck a hobby file in the bearing and used the edge of my workbench as leverage to hold the sleeve in place while I pushed the bearing out. It was not easy, but it's OUT. Thanks everyone for the advice and the commiseration. :big grin:

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Re: Spool bearing stuck in metal sleeve

Post by dragon1 » Tue Jul 04, 2023 9:33 pm

CGrinder wrote:
Thu Jun 15, 2023 8:36 pm
Update:

VICTORY

Threw it in a drawer for near two years while work consumed me (avoid the golf industry). Popped it out literally two days ago after I stuck a hobby file in the bearing and used the edge of my workbench as leverage to hold the sleeve in place while I pushed the bearing out. It was not easy, but it's OUT. Thanks everyone for the advice and the commiseration. :big grin:
Man, should have made a video...might've been entertaining.

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