Daiwa four slot pinions

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Re: Daiwa four slot pinions

Post by dragon1 » Mon Jan 09, 2023 4:14 pm

DirtyD64 wrote:
Mon Jan 09, 2023 2:22 pm
I think the theory (one reason) why lower gears last longer is the larger pinion. Eventually if you had a 1:1 ratio the main gear and pinion would be the same diameter. So a 5.3 should have a larger diameter pinion than a 9 gear ratio by a fair amount. I have not been a fan of any reels over an 8 gear or about 35" per turn.
It's also the finer/more numerous cuts/steps/teeth in order to generate the higher IPTs.
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Re: Daiwa four slot pinions

Post by DirtyD64 » Tue Jan 10, 2023 3:45 am

dragon1 wrote:
Mon Jan 09, 2023 4:14 pm
DirtyD64 wrote:
Mon Jan 09, 2023 2:22 pm
I think the theory (one reason) why lower gears last longer is the larger pinion. Eventually if you had a 1:1 ratio the main gear and pinion would be the same diameter. So a 5.3 should have a larger diameter pinion than a 9 gear ratio by a fair amount. I have not been a fan of any reels over an 8 gear or about 35" per turn.
It's also the finer/more numerous cuts/steps/teeth in order to generate the higher IPTs.
Once I can get parts from TT again, I would like to post a side-by-side picture of the 5.5 Zillion TWS gears versus the 9.1 gears. I was close to buying a 300 size reel, would have been a Tatula 300 5.3 or the Curado K 300 4.7. I think slower ratios are really growing on me.

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Re: Daiwa four slot pinions

Post by dragon1 » Tue Jan 10, 2023 4:20 am

DirtyD64 wrote:
Tue Jan 10, 2023 3:45 am
dragon1 wrote:
Mon Jan 09, 2023 4:14 pm
DirtyD64 wrote:
Mon Jan 09, 2023 2:22 pm
I think the theory (one reason) why lower gears last longer is the larger pinion. Eventually if you had a 1:1 ratio the main gear and pinion would be the same diameter. So a 5.3 should have a larger diameter pinion than a 9 gear ratio by a fair amount. I have not been a fan of any reels over an 8 gear or about 35" per turn.
It's also the finer/more numerous cuts/steps/teeth in order to generate the higher IPTs.
Once I can get parts from TT again, I would like to post a side-by-side picture of the 5.5 Zillion TWS gears versus the 9.1 gears. I was close to buying a 300 size reel, would have been a Tatula 300 5.3 or the Curado K 300 4.7. I think slower ratios are really growing on me.
Take into account, a lower gear ratio on a large diameter spool like a CU K 300 or Tranx, will still pull about ~ 30 IPTs...same for the Tat 300. This is even more important with larger diameter lines and after long casts.

This is main reason why I still prefer a 34/36 mm 6.3 or 6.8/7.1/7.3 with a BFS/mag-finesse spool versus a smaller 28/30/32 mm spool with a higher 7/8-sumpfin' gear ratio...I like the durability and feel of the lower gear ratio when cranking moving baits, while still maintaining higher IPTs when needed. Of course add the same 8.5/8.6/etc. gear ratio on a 34/36/38 spool vs a 28/30/32, and the IPTs are much more noticeable, especially on a long cast.
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Re: Daiwa four slot pinions

Post by DirtyD64 » Tue Jan 10, 2023 5:50 am

dragon1 wrote:
Tue Jan 10, 2023 4:20 am
DirtyD64 wrote:
Tue Jan 10, 2023 3:45 am
dragon1 wrote:
Mon Jan 09, 2023 4:14 pm
DirtyD64 wrote:
Mon Jan 09, 2023 2:22 pm
I think the theory (one reason) why lower gears last longer is the larger pinion. Eventually if you had a 1:1 ratio the main gear and pinion would be the same diameter. So a 5.3 should have a larger diameter pinion than a 9 gear ratio by a fair amount. I have not been a fan of any reels over an 8 gear or about 35" per turn.
It's also the finer/more numerous cuts/steps/teeth in order to generate the higher IPTs.
Once I can get parts from TT again, I would like to post a side-by-side picture of the 5.5 Zillion TWS gears versus the 9.1 gears. I was close to buying a 300 size reel, would have been a Tatula 300 5.3 or the Curado K 300 4.7. I think slower ratios are really growing on me.
Take into account, a lower gear ratio on a large diameter spool like a CU K 300 or Tranx, will still pull about ~ 30 IPTs...same for the Tat 300. This is even more important with larger diameter lines and after long casts.

This is main reason why I still prefer a 34/36 mm 6.3 or 6.8/7.1/7.3 with a BFS/mag-finesse spool versus a smaller 28/30/32 mm spool with a higher 7/8-sumpfin' gear ratio...I like the durability and feel of the lower gear ratio when cranking moving baits, while still maintaining higher IPTs when needed. Of course add the same 8.5/8.6/etc. gear ratio on a 34/36/38 spool vs a 28/30/32, and the IPTs are much more noticeable, especially on a long cast.
I am planning on getting a new reel soon, either fill a void on a jig rod or grab an Aldebaran BFS. I plan on getting the HG (7.8) model for the Aldebaran. I think the IPT is right at 28" and that should be perfect for smaller lures. Will slow me down fishing tiny plastics and hopefully add torque and longevity to the aluminum micro gears. The Alphas AIR in 7.1 gear is a bit too slow for me though, at 24.4 inches per turn.

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Re: Daiwa four slot pinions

Post by dragon1 » Tue Jan 10, 2023 4:32 pm

DirtyD64 wrote:
Tue Jan 10, 2023 5:50 am
dragon1 wrote:
Tue Jan 10, 2023 4:20 am
DirtyD64 wrote:
Tue Jan 10, 2023 3:45 am
dragon1 wrote:
Mon Jan 09, 2023 4:14 pm
DirtyD64 wrote:
Mon Jan 09, 2023 2:22 pm
I think the theory (one reason) why lower gears last longer is the larger pinion. Eventually if you had a 1:1 ratio the main gear and pinion would be the same diameter. So a 5.3 should have a larger diameter pinion than a 9 gear ratio by a fair amount. I have not been a fan of any reels over an 8 gear or about 35" per turn.
It's also the finer/more numerous cuts/steps/teeth in order to generate the higher IPTs.
Once I can get parts from TT again, I would like to post a side-by-side picture of the 5.5 Zillion TWS gears versus the 9.1 gears. I was close to buying a 300 size reel, would have been a Tatula 300 5.3 or the Curado K 300 4.7. I think slower ratios are really growing on me.
Take into account, a lower gear ratio on a large diameter spool like a CU K 300 or Tranx, will still pull about ~ 30 IPTs...same for the Tat 300. This is even more important with larger diameter lines and after long casts.

This is main reason why I still prefer a 34/36 mm 6.3 or 6.8/7.1/7.3 with a BFS/mag-finesse spool versus a smaller 28/30/32 mm spool with a higher 7/8-sumpfin' gear ratio...I like the durability and feel of the lower gear ratio when cranking moving baits, while still maintaining higher IPTs when needed. Of course add the same 8.5/8.6/etc. gear ratio on a 34/36/38 spool vs a 28/30/32, and the IPTs are much more noticeable, especially on a long cast.
I am planning on getting a new reel soon, either fill a void on a jig rod or grab an Aldebaran BFS. I plan on getting the HG (7.8) model for the Aldebaran. I think the IPT is right at 28" and that should be perfect for smaller lures. Will slow me down fishing tiny plastics and hopefully add torque and longevity to the aluminum micro gears. The Alphas AIR in 7.1 gear is a bit too slow for me though, at 24.4 inches per turn.
Sounds like a plan...hopefully it will be worthwhile regardless of which direction you choose.
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