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Bay_Bassin86 wrote: ↑

Sat Jun 26, 2021 8:14 am

For that price I would look at other brands personally. Since they did the redesign the rods have gotten heavier vs the old ultra mbx. I can’t speak about the new one much since I’ve only handled them in the store but the old 707H was a very solid and amazing rod.

They run about $320ish but if you pick up a destroyer P5 from Japan they are about $370ish and 10x the rod.

Chode wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 14, 2021 7:11 pm

How's this new line in terms of balance, sensitivity, action, weight, etc? If you can compare it to other rods in its weight class, it'd be even better. Thx

shimanogloomis man wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:39 am

I personally love Phenix rods , iv owned or tried every brand out there and for the money Phenix all around is my favorite, I have a the 7ft drop shot ultra mbx and I’d easily put it up to a glx in terms of sensitivity and Phenix balances very will also compared to others , FYI the feather series are the lightest rod iv ever owned and for the money the awesome !

shimanogloomis man wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:39 am

I personally love Phenix rods , iv owned or tried every brand out there and for the money Phenix all around is my favorite, I have a the 7ft drop shot ultra mbx and I’d easily put it up to a glx in terms of sensitivity and Phenix balances very will also compared to others , FYI the feather series are the lightest rod iv ever owned and for the money the awesome !

slipperybob wrote: ↑

Mon Dec 06, 2021 11:46 am

I finally got one of the newer designed one. I choose the 7' Light power one. I have the previous one 6'6" Light power Ultra MBX classic one to compare with.

The locking nut on this is nothing special, rather basic standard one. The thing I don't seem to like much about it is too much exposed threads in front. The trigger reel seat feels like basic plastic resin. Nothing special about it, just seems like fast production.

So I got around to just mock putting a reel on and threading the line guides to check for rod bend. It doesn't take much but there is a lot of line rub onto the blank as soon as the rod flexes. Although the rod blank is listed as a fast taper action, it is a touch less. When compared to the older model I have the line guides on the older model are smaller and better spacing and choice of actual line guides. The older one has 10 line guides plus tip. This new model actually only has 9 line guides plus tip. So either I got a improperly guide set made model or the product description is wrong. The older one has a stronger backbone and flexes true as a fast taper. There is no line rub on the rod bend. So looking closer at the line guides, the older model has a raise stem to keep the line off the rod on the bend. The newer one is almost basically flushed down to the blank. So that is why I'm seeing such immediate line rub on the flex as well as less line guides.

It just appears as a minimalist approach and while the rod is much lighter in feel and actual weight as well, the line rub and actual components put onto the rod is rather dismal for the performance feel of the rod blank.

Hogsticker2 wrote: ↑

Mon Dec 06, 2021 3:32 pm

slipperybob wrote: ↑

Mon Dec 06, 2021 11:46 am

I finally got one of the newer designed one. I choose the 7' Light power one. I have the previous one 6'6" Light power Ultra MBX classic one to compare with.

The locking nut on this is nothing special, rather basic standard one. The thing I don't seem to like much about it is too much exposed threads in front. The trigger reel seat feels like basic plastic resin. Nothing special about it, just seems like fast production.

So I got around to just mock putting a reel on and threading the line guides to check for rod bend. It doesn't take much but there is a lot of line rub onto the blank as soon as the rod flexes. Although the rod blank is listed as a fast taper action, it is a touch less. When compared to the older model I have the line guides on the older model are smaller and better spacing and choice of actual line guides. The older one has 10 line guides plus tip. This new model actually only has 9 line guides plus tip. So either I got a improperly guide set made model or the product description is wrong. The older one has a stronger backbone and flexes true as a fast taper. There is no line rub on the rod bend. So looking closer at the line guides, the older model has a raise stem to keep the line off the rod on the bend. The newer one is almost basically flushed down to the blank. So that is why I'm seeing such immediate line rub on the flex as well as less line guides.

It just appears as a minimalist approach and while the rod is much lighter in feel and actual weight as well, the line rub and actual components put onto the rod is rather dismal for the performance feel of the rod blank.

Oh man, that too bad. Blows me away that they would place the guides to where line touches the blank. That's just nonsense, especially for a rod and blank manufacturer as popular as Phenix. Typically when getting the same power rod in a longer length, the blank tends to be a little slower. Are you going to contact Phenix or just return it?