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CFDoc
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by CFDoc » Sun Jun 27, 2021 12:35 pm
Vantieuthu01 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 27, 2021 11:18 am
Does anyone have both zillion 21 and a steez A TW 1016?
Can you please check whether the main gear and pinion of zillion 21 can swap with steez A (main gear+pinion) ???
I really like the new hypergear design for the main gear but also like the magseal too. New product line of daiwa doesnt have magseal. I think they try to reduce the size and weight. However, magseal is extremely good for saltwater fishing. I will order a replacement for my steez A if the main gear+pinion can be swaped. Thank
I think there’s a YouTube video out there that shows the two side by side. However, the name won’t show up on this site.
I plan on marsh fishing with the 21 zillion this fall. I’m also the one that posted about a lot of water intrusion when fishing in the rain. My idea is to order a few sets of the hybrid ceramic bearings. I’ll prolly get the spool, and two bearings underneath the tension knob as well. Probably cheaper than buying a gear/pinion set.
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by mark poulson » Sun Jun 27, 2021 2:43 pm
Vantieuthu01 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 27, 2021 11:18 am
Does anyone have both zillion 21 and a steez A TW 1016?
Can you please check whether the main gear and pinion of zillion 21 can swap with steez A (main gear+pinion) ???
I really like the new hypergear design for the main gear but also like the magseal too. New product line of daiwa doesnt have magseal. I think they try to reduce the size and weight. However, magseal is extremely good for saltwater fishing. I will order a replacement for my steez A if the main gear+pinion can be swaped. Thank
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mark poulson
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by mark poulson » Sun Jun 27, 2021 2:43 pm
Vantieuthu01 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 27, 2021 11:18 am
Does anyone have both zillion 21 and a steez A TW 1016?
Can you please check whether the main gear and pinion of zillion 21 can swap with steez A (main gear+pinion) ???
I really like the new hypergear design for the main gear but also like the magseal too. New product line of daiwa doesnt have magseal. I think they try to reduce the size and weight. However, magseal is extremely good for saltwater fishing. I will order a replacement for my steez A if the main gear+pinion can be swaped. Thank
Ask Brian.
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by SSS » Sun Jun 27, 2021 7:05 pm
I am also extremely interested in swapping my Steez SV TW gears with the zillion1000. I have both reels, but a bit too lazy to do the test
If anybody can confirm the compatibility it'd great.
Just checked their price on PLAT. Its $100 for the set
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Vantieuthu01
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by Vantieuthu01 » Mon Jun 28, 2021 4:55 am
SSS wrote: ↑Sun Jun 27, 2021 7:05 pm
I am also extremely interested in swapping my Steez SV TW gears with the zillion1000. I have both reels, but a bit too lazy to do the test
If anybody can confirm the compatibility it'd great.
Just checked their price on PLAT. Its $100 for the set
Is the new zillion better than steez A? i am wordering should i buy a new zillion if i already had a steez A.
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by SSS » Mon Jun 28, 2021 5:10 am
Vantieuthu01 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 4:55 am
SSS wrote: ↑Sun Jun 27, 2021 7:05 pm
I am also extremely interested in swapping my Steez SV TW gears with the zillion1000. I have both reels, but a bit too lazy to do the test
If anybody can confirm the compatibility it'd great.
Just checked their price on PLAT. Its $100 for the set
Is the new zillion better than steez A? i am wordering should i buy a new zillion if i already had a steez A.
I don't have the A. I own the sv tw and i do prefer its frame over the zillion1000, but the zillion is smoother and has a better stock spool. For the price, i would highly suggest to go with the zillion over the steez.
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by bbates3 » Mon Jun 28, 2021 7:20 am
Vantieuthu01 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 4:55 am
SSS wrote: ↑Sun Jun 27, 2021 7:05 pm
I am also extremely interested in swapping my Steez SV TW gears with the zillion1000. I have both reels, but a bit too lazy to do the test
If anybody can confirm the compatibility it'd great.
Just checked their price on PLAT. Its $100 for the set
Is the new zillion better than steez A? i am wordering should i buy a new zillion if i already had a steez A.
Right now if buying new reels I would buy a Zillion over the steez a or svtw for sure and what I have recently done. Probably not going to sell any of my steez but i am not going to buy any more new ones either.
to me the zillion feels smoother and more refined on the retrieve i havent compared casting distance with them yet but i will soon. Plus its a good bit less money and so far i dont feel like you are giving anything up.
I am a big fan and really like them so far.
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by Freddie » Mon Jun 28, 2021 6:11 pm
Maybe this has been explained somewhere here already idk, but I'm just wondering where all the bearings are placed in this Zillion?There are 8 total and none in the levelwind. If I understand correctly, 2 for the pinion gear, 2 for the main gear shaft, 2 on the spool, and that leaves...2 on the handle I guess? Could someone please confirm? Thank you!
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by CFDoc » Mon Jun 28, 2021 7:25 pm
Freddie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 6:11 pm
Maybe this has been explained somewhere here already idk, but I'm just wondering where all the bearings are placed in this Zillion?There are 8 total and none in the levelwind. If I understand correctly, 2 for the pinion gear, 2 for the main gear shaft, 2 on the spool, and that leaves...2 on the handle I guess? Could someone please confirm? Thank you!
That’s correct for the most part. There are two, one on either side of the level wind, then 6 more where you stated:
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by DrPerf » Mon Jun 28, 2021 8:19 pm
The current JDM Zillion SV TW worm shaft has two spacers rather than bearings in a stock configuration.
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by DirtyD64 » Tue Jun 29, 2021 2:13 am
2 Pinion
2 spool
2 main shaft
2 handle
1 Anti Reverse
9 Total for the new Zillion. I was not aware that the JDM model had less bearings. I know now the JDM model has smaller knobs and aluminum gears, when we first heard that news I told a newer member there was no way. He was right and I must apologize if he sees this, I just was shocked to find out one was made in Japan and the other in Thailand, with our model getting brass.
To the other member, I own a Steez A and am in the same dilemma, I have a little scratch money before our first child, not sure if the Zillion SV1000 will be that much better to get a new reel. Makes it worse that my trolling motor quit yesterday...
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by Just_Bass » Tue Jul 06, 2021 5:31 pm
Now my wife approved me the budget for another Zillion. Just sitting here thinking, if I should get another Zillion (USDM this time) or another Alphas SV TW. I’m happy with both performance, alphas 10lb FC 0.10” and Zillion 15lb FC 0.13”. The new reel I want it for 12lb Copolymer 0.14” line. I like the size of Alphas better but worry about that narrow, deeper spool that would limited casting distance on larger diameter line. Do we still get 10% discount when preorder?
BTW look at my JDM Zillion and this imperfections paint, can’t believe this passed Japan QC?
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by RMCatchNrelease » Wed Jul 07, 2021 5:13 am
Not to throw this off topic, but I just sent a Tatula 300 back that had 4 or more paint bubbles and or imperfections. I got a discount from Japan Tackle on my Morethan 1000xh because it had a large paint chip right near the mag dail.
I'm so scared of scratching this new Zillion. I keep a reel cover on even while strapped to the deck.
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by CFDoc » Wed Jul 07, 2021 7:57 am
RMCatchNrelease wrote: ↑Wed Jul 07, 2021 5:13 am
I'm so scared of scratching this new Zillion. I keep a reel cover on even while strapped to the deck.
Good idea. Riding on the deck is how this happened to mine:
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by DirtyD64 » Wed Jul 07, 2021 10:47 am
Wonder if they will address or change the paint... the old TWS variants have had different styles throughout, maybe these will too?