CoolLowRange wrote: ↑Sat Oct 23, 2021 10:13 amVery true. I'm going to me parent's acreage to dig potatoes and will bring a few rods to cast out some baits including weightless fluke to get idea of what sort of distances are possible. They have large open areas of land to fire off baits and record distances. Also my gym shoes are exactly 12 in from tip to heel so I can walk out my distances exactly.DrPerf wrote: ↑Sat Oct 23, 2021 10:01 amI am well aware that casting a lure and a casting weight will likely result in different results. My tests are to establish a “best case”, which will let me know, when using a lure, how close to the “best case” a specific lure is working when casting distance is a factor.LowRange wrote: ↑Sat Oct 23, 2021 8:16 amA casting weight and bait cast completely different. Also those casting distances are horrific. I can cast 80% of the 20# braid off my Airy Red spool with a 1/10 oz ned head and 3" of cut Hula Stick. That's right at 1/4 oz. I must be getting at least 140 ft. If raw distance is the goal definitely add that snap to the cast and put some speed in those spools. That while palming the reel when casting smooth casting is great for targets but if you want bomb a bait you have to bomb a bait.DrPerf wrote: ↑Fri Oct 22, 2021 6:04 pmWent out to my "casting park", where I have distances and targets marked, to compare the Alphas SV TW 800XHL and my Airy Red Pixzilla. Both reels were used with a Daiwa Steez AGS Compile X 7'2" 'Moving Bait Versatile'.
The first casting weight was 1/4 oz. (0.250).
(For reference a weightless Zoom Salty Super Fluke weighs 0.282 oz., slightly more than 1/4 oz.)
Alphas SV TW: 100 to 110 feet
Pixzilla: 90 to 100 feet
3/8 oz. (0.375 oz.)
Alphas SV TW: 140-145 feet
1/2 oz. (0.500 oz.)
Alphas SV TW: 175-180 feet
All casts were one-handed casts with moderate effort (smooth motion without "snap" at the end).
I did not test the Pixzilla after 1/4 oz. since it was clear the Alphas was superior with that rod and Alphas SV TW/'Moving Bait Versatile' is the combination I have and will be using for flukes.
Regards,
Doc
Since you did not state what rod nor reel you were using, it is not possible to compare the distances you state with what I posted. Also, my experience is that most over estimate casting distance when using “Mark 1 eyeball”. That is why have distances measured with an accurate laser rangefinder for my tests.
I have several rods, if paired with the Alphas SV TW, would likely provide additional casting distance. But that was not the purpose of my test. It was to test the specific combination listed in my post.
As far as adding “snap” to the cast, I have found a smooth, consistent motion to be much more efficient when casting lighter weights than a “snap” cast. The speed of my spools/spool bearings is non-issue when casting at any weight. And OBW, I do not palm my reel when casting in any fashion.
Regards,
Doc
This will be fun. Going to use a mix of 20# and 30# braid. The Alphas SV gets 10# flouro. I'm going to throw a weightless fluke, 4 1/4 Stick O, 5 inch
Senko and 1/10 oz ned heads with small floating plastics 3 inches or under.
Reels:
Revo3 Elite with Deez spool and IVCB conversion
Engetsu
Alphas SV with Ray's inductor and spring
Pixy with Airy Red spool
Pixy with Ray's spool
Representing the broke:
Fuego CT with Ray's Long Cast ($115 total reel+spool)
Spartacus with Elf shallow spool ($41 total reel+spool)
Rods:
Volkey BFS 268L
Zodias BFS 1610ML
Fantasista Deez 70MMH MGS whatever that is supposed to mean. It's a long ML.
Laguna 70MFB
It will be interesting to see what you come up with.
Remember "heel to toe" in a straight line